thank you, thats what i am saying, base your inferences on reasonably verifiable assumptions, but then you get called a sheep
You are called a sheep because u are being biased and followwing Conte's decition blindly instead of trying to look at the greater picture.
The fact is that we cannot put our hands on the fire for Conte., because since the end of our 2nd scudetto, he started to show signs of bitterness towards the board and some doubts.. but after the 3rd scudetto, and after all the pressure he got from the fans and media after the europe run... it as increasingly notorious that something was going on with him.
On the otehr hand...you try to put a blind eye to that and blame everythhing on the lack of promises fullfilled form the board.
But now, tell me....yo will say to me that Conte didtn knew how our financial status was in first place?. HE KNEW we didnt have the money to spend 30 mils on one player. IM pretty sure that he knew that. If he stayed with us.. he was fully aware that we could lose a player or2, just like last years. Right now, Juventus is in a state that cannot give guarantees. Its a fact and a reality that some fans should accept before jumping the gun and saying "buy this guy and that one, it doesnt matter the price".
TLDR: Take everything into account before saying that Juventus failed Conte.
So pirlo was never WC before he met conte
Vidal got so good just because of conte
Buffon was never WC before conte
Barzagli was never good before conte
The player with which he had more impact i personally think is marchisio . First season he made him flawless and gave a boost to his self confidence . Also he did a great job in finding a place for everyone and where everyone expressed their fullest . Like the 3 man defense to make it easier for both chiello and bonucci (also because pepe was missing). That made us win our first scudetto .
As i said , conte has played a great part in our winnings , but it's not that we had a team full with gilardinos . I remember very clearly that the objective of our first year with conte was to reach 3rd place . That means that even with an untested coach at these levels we had faith that the quality of players would send us to 3rd , conte did the rest and won the first season . Second season our main opponents dismantled their squad and we were clearly favourites , again conte has a lot of merits of repeating himself and keeping the expectations . Same for third season , we clearly had the better team and conte lead it to first place .
INdeed.
Buddy if his heart wasn't in it, then why wait until now to do this?
Are you telling me that he woke up this morning and just came to that conclusion?
and how would that make it any better? You and others are saying that this isn't something that he would do on a whim.
So either he indeed did this at the spur of the moment, or he felt this way for a while now and just now decided to do this. Either way thst is not good
This is my real guess. And why i say this?. Because he was unsure of this since he season ended. He was not able to cope with the increasingly pressure of the Europe defeats. He kept saying that he was unable to win the CL with the current squad.... but... who asked him to win the whole thing in first place? No one on their right mind would demand that from him. Then...after the final game of the season...we all remember how he was moaning openly at the media about our lack of ambitions and all the parade that resulted from that.
If he really was that convinced that he wasnt able to take the team further.... or if he had a lot od differences with AA and w2il eye marotta..... he should have quitted right there..in that precise moment. But he got confused. He should have been secure that he was not going to be able to make it and to agree with the board. Juventus feelings aside...he should have quitted. Thats what the wiser thing todo, for both parties....and even when it would have been a slap in the face for everyone.... we would have been foprced to udnerstand his reasons and find a replacement.
But now is a different story.-
Remember his wife crying in the scudetto red carpet?. Somehting was being cooked since there and it boiled totally today.
do you want my opinion?
conte has an opinion on where this team should eb heading, he shared this plan earlier this year with the board. there was some conflict and he decided he cant work under the board's plan, after a few meetings they came to a compromise. In good faith, conte believed what he was promised. Fast forward to today, there was an obvious failure/reneging of one of the engagements of the board, thinking that since we are so far into preseason conte would just fold and accept it. He wants none of it and decides to call ti quits.
Just too easy. I really dont think he is that innocent.
Just watched the exit interview.
He really looked like a defeated man, one unsure of himself.
Yes. Weird as fuk.
Is not the interview of someone who is like "hey, you all failed on me and i warned you, so suck it up.".............. its , like you said.... the words of a man still shellshocked, and not exactly and only because his feelings towards the team--- but thats the face of someone who is maybe is not sure whats going on.
This was the 2nd day of pre-season man. Might it be wrong to suggest that maybe Conte might have jumped to conclusions, and that everyone has to share the blame on this?
This si what i have been saying to him the whole afternoon.... but he says im an ungrateful prick.
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, still people had a lot of faith in him in the first conte season . Peluso and padoin have performed normally , he got the best out of giac . Conte doesn't turn shit into gold . He takes players with potential and makes them express themselves . He isn't responsible of pogba being great , he is responsible of him becoming so good so quickly , just like he isn't responsible for elia and krasic being not good
