Antonio Conte (112 Viewers)

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Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
37,868
Contes ambitions and any preexisting arrangements taken into consideration, this left the club in a very tight spot. Next season is basically ruined and while we are not quite set back to post calciopoli state of affairs, it set back the club tremendously.

A true Juventus legend would have swallowed it, done his for the club for the first six months, offering some timetoworkon a replacement and then left. There is this idea that Juventus is bigger than the players playing for it and the people managing it and i fulle subscribe to it, i I hoped Conte would too. He had the chance to bail earlier in the season and he should have seized it were he not prepared for hiccups. A management as finsncislly responsible as the current one would not have agreed on any circumstances earlier this summer when they were persuading him, were they not 100 percent sure they could deliver. That might be a failure on their part to do the job, but it certainly does not imply that they tried tricking him into staying, as some members sadly seem to be implying
 

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Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
Who's putting him down? I'm not putting him down. I just don't think its, as clear cut as Conte is right and everyone else is wrong.

and I'm certainly not discrediting what he did as a coach for us. I will never forget it. As I stated this afternoon, I didn't know whether to yell cry or throw up, so I eliminated the middle man and did all three.

that doesn't mean that I shouldn't be upset at the mess he potentially left us in.
You show them Sergoi.

thx
 

Gerd

Senior Member
Dec 25, 2011
5,955
Isla was injured when he signed, and once he got his confidence back, he had some good moments. He also played well for his NT. My question is, how come almost every big signing before Conte (after coming back to serie A of course) was a flop (Amauri, diego, Melo, Krasic, Iaquinta...), and almost none under him was?
Yeah, it might be pure luck. But luck does not last for 3 seasons. The difference between how Juve played before Conte and under him is overwhelming.
It is also a different managment , appart from krasic . From the list i would say iaquinta hasn't been much of a flop , he wasn't present in the last years thanks to injuries and wanting to simply sit and eat his wages . The one which has baffled me is diego , he was 2 years straight best bundes player , i was expecting him to do great with us and than he flopped badly . Still most of those players didn't do that good after juve either so it's not that it was the fault of the coach at the time either

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Contes ambitions and any preexisting arrangements taken into consideration, this left the club in a very tight spot. Next season is basically ruined and while we are not quite set back to post calciopoli state of affairs, it set back the club tremendously.

A true Juventus legend would have swallowed it, done his for the club for the first six months, offering some timetoworkon a replacement and then left. There is this idea that Juventus is bigger than the players playing for it and the people managing it and i fulle subscribe to it, i I hoped Conte would too. He had the chance to bail earlier in the season and he should have seized it were he not prepared for hiccups. A management as finsncislly responsible as the current one would not have agreed on any circumstances earlier this summer when they were persuading him, were they not 100 percent sure they could deliver. That might be a failure on their part to do the job, but it certainly does not imply that they tried tricking him into staying, as some members sadly seem to be implying
:agree: totally agree
 

Salvo

J
Moderator
Dec 17, 2007
62,797
I don't know why he left but I am disappointed in Conte, he was always going to be stubborn but if he did walk out because of transfer targets or whatever...I just don't think it was right, not days before pre-season.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
Contes ambitions and any preexisting arrangements taken into consideration, this left the club in a very tight spot. Next season is basically ruined and while we are not quite set back to post calciopoli state of affairs, it set back the club tremendously.

A true Juventus legend would have swallowed it, done his for the club for the first six months, offering some timetoworkon a replacement and then left. There is this idea that Juventus is bigger than the players playing for it and the people managing it and i fulle subscribe to it, i I hoped Conte would too. He had the chance to bail earlier in the season and he should have seized it were he not prepared for hiccups. A management as finsncislly responsible as the current one would not have agreed on any circumstances earlier this summer when they were persuading him, were they not 100 percent sure they could deliver. That might be a failure on their part to do the job, but it certainly does not imply that they tried tricking him into staying, as some members sadly seem to be implying
Fuckign this. Wise and logical words.

I think that everyone who has some common sense...should be thinking this same way.

He should have left at the first chance if he was going to do this NOW. If he, for some reason, didnt agreed with the project....theres little sense in trying to continue. He knew full well how Juve has been working in the last 3 yars. nuder a very tight budget. Winnign scudettos doesnt mean millons of dollars nowadays.... but the CL does.
TBH, our debale started right after the galatasaray game...and for that he is in par to blame too. Is not only Marotta and his penny pinching..or AA and his del piero hate. Is everyone's fault at this stage.

But still , like Nzoric says, even when Agnelli and Beppe could have said "yes we will get, well , maybe we will get Sanchez"...... leaving the club in this mess is totally uncalled for.

If he was going to commit this season...he should have done it til the end...Sanchez or not. Not for him or for Agnelli... but for the love of the club, just like Del piero did even when he was a very shitty situation. TILL THE FUKING END OF IT-
 

alaska

Senior Member
May 25, 2013
1,253
you tell me this.

if you knew in advance that spending 30 million on Iturbe means that Conte stays, you would do it, right?

You don't think that management knew this, or better yet, was there any indication by the coach that if Iturbe was not acquired, that he would leave?
Obviously they didn't know, we're dealing in hypotheticals. This whole thread of debate started because I raised the possibility that the 'person who screwed up' that Agnelli's wife talked about was Marotta, not Conte. Just a thought.

Also, regardless of Conte's leaving today (which nobody expected, any guru who says he did is full of nonsense), I would have paid 30m for Iturbe. It's high, I know. But who else are we going to buy? We needed wingers to 'keep Conte happy', and to improve our options. And Iturbe is a great prospect. Only difference is, I thought if we failed to sign him Conte would leave NEXT summer, not this instant.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
I don't know why he left but I am disappointed in Conte, he was always going to be stubborn but if he did walk out because of transfer targets or whatever...I just don't think it was right, not days before pre-season.
Agreed. :tup:

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This is like quitting a job where the company is heavily invested in you without a two week notice. :lol:
 

Ronn

Senior Member
May 3, 2012
20,885
It is also a different managment , appart from krasic . From the list i would say iaquinta hasn't been much of a flop , he wasn't present in the last years thanks to injuries and wanting to simply sit and eat his wages . The one which has baffled me is diego , he was 2 years straight best bundes player , i was expecting him to do great with us and than he flopped badly . Still most of those players didn't do that good after juve either so it's not that it was the fault of the coach at the time either
Conte and new management were together in this, but there are signs that shows Conte has the largest role. I mentioned one up there, that we conceded 47 goals with almost the same back line one season before Conte, 7 more than Chievo Verona and almsot twice as Milan. I applaud management for signing Pirlo though. That's the biggest role they played, other than hiring Conte.
 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
84,754
Contes ambitions and any preexisting arrangements taken into consideration, this left the club in a very tight spot. Next season is basically ruined and while we are not quite set back to post calciopoli state of affairs, it set back the club tremendously.

A true Juventus legend would have swallowed it, done his for the club for the first six months, offering some timetoworkon a replacement and then left. There is this idea that Juventus is bigger than the players playing for it and the people managing it and i fulle subscribe to it, i I hoped Conte would too. He had the chance to bail earlier in the season and he should have seized it were he not prepared for hiccups. A management as finsncislly responsible as the current one would not have agreed on any circumstances earlier this summer when they were persuading him, were they not 100 percent sure they could deliver. That might be a failure on their part to do the job, but it certainly does not imply that they tried tricking him into staying, as some members sadly seem to be implying
Yup. It's the "failure of professionalism" issue I had to bring up. Unless Marotta was sexually abusing Conte and his kids, leaving like this seems to put the good of an individual coach way above the good of the team, club, organization, and fans.

That's why I am particularly disappointed.
 

Gerd

Senior Member
Dec 25, 2011
5,955
Conte and new management were together in this, but there are signs that shows Conte has the largest role. I mentioned one up there, that we conceded 47 goals with almost the same back line one season before Conte, 7 more than Chievo Verona and almsot twice as Milan. I applaud management for signing Pirlo though. That's the biggest role they played, other than hiring Conte.
That is what i am saying and i also do think that conte had a bigger part in winning , especially first year , less in the other two , but not as a mounstrous part as some think . Managment also signed vidal , pogba , asa . The first especially being a very key player
 

Ronn

Senior Member
May 3, 2012
20,885
That is what i am saying and i also do think that conte had a bigger part in winning , especially first year , less in the other two , but not as a mounstrous part as some think . Managment also signed vidal , pogba , asa . The first especially being a very key player
Agree, and I do believe such a coach that can get the best out of his players (Vidal, Pogba and Marchisio being examples) is very hard to find. That's why I think we lost our ,by far, best asset.
 

AOD4

Senior Member
Nov 24, 2004
3,861
Conte to win the CL so that we can forget about Italy's disappointing WC exit.
My last post on this thread, just wishing Juventus will take away the pain of Italy. Now I slept dreaming of Iturbe and Morata, and I get up and got this shocker.

He probably saw our signings and felt disappointed.
Probably Marota said, look I have Coman, WC player like Pogba. Then Conte sees on the first day, fuck this shit , I am leaving.

Wishful thinking but what about Juup Heynckes, Guus Hiddink or Frank Rijkaard anyone?
Guus taking over Holland from Van Gaal, Heynckes will not come out of retirement, he has retired as a legend, Rijkaard ,please not him.

GDM reported it was a done deal. Starting from tomorrow he'll be in Vinovo. The cheapest solution atm and he's got decent experience.
I think this Allegri deal, is a panic deal because the timing of the resignation. We hardly can find anyone immediately.


I would like to thank Conte for his great work and the success he has been part of. Partly he is our reason to have a wonderful 3 years.
The scudetto in 2011/2012 is my fondest memory of Juventus. I feel bitter about the timing of his resignation but moving forward lets stop the blame game.
We have to remember the club stick with him when he was banned to be fair to AA.

Now lets hope for the best with the rest of the team who are still here. Who ever comes, we need to support and hope for the best.
Forza Juventus!
 

beowulf

Junior Member
Dec 9, 2012
350
Forza Conte. I will always admire the man. Just hope he stays away from managing any other Italian clubs.

One of the most fun managers to watch on the sideline. I derived great happiness from how animated he was.
 

arc

Senior Member
Mar 11, 2004
4,078
Didn't we just start our pre-season? What about the signings we been working on?

All works are undone. I hope our board doesn't panic like we do and get our hands on whoever we could.

But to be honest, there isn't many options out there.
 

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