Antonio Conte (119 Viewers)
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The Media product is terrible. Serie A has the money to put out the same quality picture as the EPL but chooses to look 5 years out of date (Juve Stadium looks really sexy).
Better Camera/Pictures
Italian made and run English commentary and analysis and the usual pretty women.
Simple and affordable things to make Serie A attractive.
But it's not done because Italy is a corrupt clientalist backwater dominated by padeophilic kleptocrats.
Better Camera/Pictures
Italian made and run English commentary and analysis and the usual pretty women.
Simple and affordable things to make Serie A attractive.
But it's not done because Italy is a corrupt clientalist backwater dominated by padeophilic kleptocrats.
It's about giving back. It happened in USA this year, could be London next year. The club makes a shit load of money with broadcasting rights and a good chunk of it comes from overseas. If you don't respect the fans then slowly the fans will stop respecting you. Even freaking Everton made an effort, can't see why Juve couldn't make an effort. And this is not the first time they are goofing things up. Announcing open sessions then cancelling it, announcing meet and greet and then cancelling it are all big fuck ups no matter how you spin it. It's okay if you take the games as nothing more than friendlies and play badly, at least make up for it by spending some time with the fans.
We should hire DP as the director of PR. The man knows how to please a fan base
We should hire DP as the director of PR. The man knows how to please a fan base
It does. Do you know how many players Man United could afford that they otherwise could not because of all the kits and merchandise stores they have in Asia?
Arguably, you could even say that Manchowder is wise enough to even deliberately make some Asian signings knowing that will help develop their overseas fan base there.
Football clubs at the highest level have to compete in a global economy where many other sports and many other clubs are more than happy to draw the money, support, and loyalty that some of these "big clubs" would otherwise get. If Juventus doesn't think more like Manchester United and instead thinks more like Fiorentina, the club is doomed on the European stage let alone the domestic Italian one.
Supporters around the world buy merchandise, they command viewership which raises TV revenue contracts, they travel to attend events, and they contribute to the overall media coverage and awareness that funnels right back into the pockets and ultimate success of any global club.
For Juventus to shoot itself in the foot at that global fan piece is a self-inflicted wound.
Exactly. That this was the U.S. this time makes no difference. Conte and the club would most certainly give the same cold shoulder to fans in Asia, fans in the Middle East, etc. This is not the U.S. being singled out: this is a general attitude and lack of respect and appreciation for what the fans contribute to the club's success.
I've been a pretty loyal Juve fan for a while, but the whole Conte experience in the U.S. this summer left a really bad taste in my mouth. It was like the fans were superfluous to things -- we were treated as annoying interlopers. What's held it together for me is knowing the long club history of coaches who come and go (and coaches have different attitudes and approaches to fans). But instead of building fan loyalty on this tour, Conte actually challenged it for me.
For any budding fan who wasn't as established as me, the message was, "We don't want you ... go runaway and cheer for Everton."
As for DP, I've been thinking about him lately. I'll defend Conte with this much in that you do have to be a nasty ass^@%# to be an effective coach sometimes, and DP seems too pleasant and nice to pull that off if he ever were to go into coaching. But you absolutely have to believe I want him in charge with anything dealing with our global fanbase.
Arguably, you could even say that Manchowder is wise enough to even deliberately make some Asian signings knowing that will help develop their overseas fan base there.
Football clubs at the highest level have to compete in a global economy where many other sports and many other clubs are more than happy to draw the money, support, and loyalty that some of these "big clubs" would otherwise get. If Juventus doesn't think more like Manchester United and instead thinks more like Fiorentina, the club is doomed on the European stage let alone the domestic Italian one.
Supporters around the world buy merchandise, they command viewership which raises TV revenue contracts, they travel to attend events, and they contribute to the overall media coverage and awareness that funnels right back into the pockets and ultimate success of any global club.
For Juventus to shoot itself in the foot at that global fan piece is a self-inflicted wound.
It's about giving back. It happened in USA this year, could be London next year. The club makes a shit load of money with broadcasting rights and a good chunk of it comes from overseas. If you don't respect the fans then slowly the fans will stop respecting you. Even freaking Everton made an effort, can't see why Juve couldn't make an effort. And this is not the first time they are goofing things up. Announcing open sessions then cancelling it, announcing meet and greet and then cancelling it are all big fuck ups no matter how you spin it. It's okay if you take the games as nothing more than friendlies and play badly, at least make up for it by spending some time with the fans.
We should hire DP as the director of PR. The man knows how to please a fan base
We should hire DP as the director of PR. The man knows how to please a fan base
I've been a pretty loyal Juve fan for a while, but the whole Conte experience in the U.S. this summer left a really bad taste in my mouth. It was like the fans were superfluous to things -- we were treated as annoying interlopers. What's held it together for me is knowing the long club history of coaches who come and go (and coaches have different attitudes and approaches to fans). But instead of building fan loyalty on this tour, Conte actually challenged it for me.
For any budding fan who wasn't as established as me, the message was, "We don't want you ... go runaway and cheer for Everton."
As for DP, I've been thinking about him lately. I'll defend Conte with this much in that you do have to be a nasty ass^@%# to be an effective coach sometimes, and DP seems too pleasant and nice to pull that off if he ever were to go into coaching. But you absolutely have to believe I want him in charge with anything dealing with our global fanbase.
A.k.a Silvio Berlusconi.
Since I've moved to China I have seen a lot of EPL merchandise around, and Chinese people wearing EPL jerseys, I've also seen a few Inter and Milan jerseys, I have only seen anything Juve related 3 times in five months over here. We have little fan base over here from what I've seen, at least in Beijing.
Swag brings up an excellent point.
If alex was to quit playing, i think he's to kind to become a coach. He might have been a leader in the dressing room, but thats created by the respect people have for you, at juventus. He's not a vocal boss like conte.
But Alex his gentleman approach towards fans and media, has allways set a terrific picture of juventus.
We should ABSOLUTELY hire alex to lead our PR department. Not the marketting or anything, but PR related stuff
If alex was to quit playing, i think he's to kind to become a coach. He might have been a leader in the dressing room, but thats created by the respect people have for you, at juventus. He's not a vocal boss like conte.
But Alex his gentleman approach towards fans and media, has allways set a terrific picture of juventus.
We should ABSOLUTELY hire alex to lead our PR department. Not the marketting or anything, but PR related stuff
I went to see Juve in 2003 at Brown Stadium in Providence, RI for an open practice and autograph and photo sessions. Back then, I didn't know that they were selling tickets for this and youhad to have a ticket in order to even get in ($100.00 each back then) . I went and pleaded my case to one of the technical assistants there at the time (lo and behold, I found out later that it was none other than Alessio Secco), and he completely understood my situation and let my wife and I in for FREE. I got to watch the whole practice not more than 15 feet away, and got autographs and photos of most of the players there.
So no, that isn't entirely correct.
I like him little bit more now.
That is such a nice thing to do, kindness can go a long way. He didn't have to let u in for free but he still cared enough to do it. I agree about Conte with the PR these friendlies in other countries are all about PR it was handled very badly. Some people could have easily paid over 1k for travel expenses to be there and then they get the door shut on them. I would be really pissed off if it happened to me, supporters are the most important part of any football club. Except Chel$ea who have a dictator sugar daddy who couldn't care less about fans.
I can't see how that makes a difference.
If it is during the regular season, that is perfectly understandable.
But this is pre-season, where the sole focus of this, and any other overseas tour, is to connect with those fanbases. That's the whole point of this exercise. That's very poor judgement on whomever decided to cancel these events for the fans who sepnd their hard earned money and have to travel like that in order to see what could be for some, a once in a lifetime opportunity. You don't treat those fans like that.
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Hopefully Juve isn't involved in the Make-a-Wish foundation.
If it is during the regular season, that is perfectly understandable.
But this is pre-season, where the sole focus of this, and any other overseas tour, is to connect with those fanbases. That's the whole point of this exercise. That's very poor judgement on whomever decided to cancel these events for the fans who sepnd their hard earned money and have to travel like that in order to see what could be for some, a once in a lifetime opportunity. You don't treat those fans like that.
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Hopefully Juve isn't involved in the Make-a-Wish foundation.
tbh a big deal has been made out of next to nothing, that is why we have the ritiro at chatillon it's not like we did that behind closed doors, like wise there were other PR events the players turned up for during the US tour, yes they had to cancel one appointment but its not like they made themselves isolated from the fans the entire summer
Judging by your recent posts regarding this topic you clearly do not understand or know the concept of brand management.
Juventus is a publicly traded outfit with an established brand in world football. Yet we are no where near comparable to the global brands established by Manure and Madrid. This tourney was a promo tour to engage fans and expand the game to more followers in the US. Guinness bank rolled a tour with some heavy hitters including ourselves. If you think winning is all a club needs to do to survive then you are severely mistaken. Who pays for the tickets to matches? Who pays for merchandise? Who pays the tv providers that air the games which the team gets revenue from? Explain to me why wouldn't the club (management- not solely Conte) want to capitalize on the opportunity to engage fans and potentially increase revenue streams? A promotional tour that has a 3rd party sponsor covering the majority of marketing expenses where teams merely have to show up. Juventus may be a football team but it's a business. And nowhere in doing business is it to alienate and lack in marketing and engaging fans/customers.
Juventus is a publicly traded outfit with an established brand in world football. Yet we are no where near comparable to the global brands established by Manure and Madrid. This tourney was a promo tour to engage fans and expand the game to more followers in the US. Guinness bank rolled a tour with some heavy hitters including ourselves. If you think winning is all a club needs to do to survive then you are severely mistaken. Who pays for the tickets to matches? Who pays for merchandise? Who pays the tv providers that air the games which the team gets revenue from? Explain to me why wouldn't the club (management- not solely Conte) want to capitalize on the opportunity to engage fans and potentially increase revenue streams? A promotional tour that has a 3rd party sponsor covering the majority of marketing expenses where teams merely have to show up. Juventus may be a football team but it's a business. And nowhere in doing business is it to alienate and lack in marketing and engaging fans/customers.
And how many people from overseas get to go these events?
And this is a big deal unless your goal is to piss off your fanbase. For God's sakes, they are on a FRIENDLY tour. Where the point of it is to reach out to those fans in foreign countries. Please try and give me one good reason why Juve would do that to their fans. Please. I'm waiting.
And this is a big deal unless your goal is to piss off your fanbase. For God's sakes, they are on a FRIENDLY tour. Where the point of it is to reach out to those fans in foreign countries. Please try and give me one good reason why Juve would do that to their fans. Please. I'm waiting.
