Antonio Conte (168 Viewers)

How would you rate Conte's (dis)appointment?

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ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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It's undeniable that the club did stand by Conte even when they did not have to. They had no idea if the ban would be prolonged or what would happen - fact is that Conte had only been coaching a Serie A team for a year up until this point.

Conte is great, but the club believed in him and his career will be magnificent because of it.
plz, conte is the biggest change in this club since moggi. look at the way it's run. marotta's role is magnified in this forum.

Conte added the mentality that made Juve a top club once more. He's the one pushing players to be all they can be. Juve and Agnelli should be thankful because Mr.Unibrow is clueless when it comes to these matters.
 

Fake Melo

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Sep 3, 2010
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They stood by him and rightly so but Conte just like DP is yet another player/coach in Juve's history. They became magnificent because of Juventus not the other way around.
That doesn't have anything to do with it.

Juventus did not have any other choice than standing by Conte, and they certainly weren't doing him any favors by sticking with him. They were looking out for their own interests.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,028
That doesn't have anything to do with it.

Juventus did not have any other choice than standing by Conte, and they certainly weren't doing him any favors by sticking with him.
We were linked with Capello and Vialli at some point. You can debate how it would finish but there were coaches available to take over. Juve did a favor to Conte by hiring him in the first place. It turned out great but there were a quite few raised eyebrows back then. And don't forget his playing career here. Conte owes Juventus a lot more. He's great because of Juventus.
 

enzo

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May 14, 2012
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We were linked with Capello and Vialli at some point. You can debate how it would finish but there were coaches available to take over. Juve did a favor to Conte by hiring him in the first place. It turned out great but there were a quite few raised eyebrows back then. And don't forget his playing career here. Conte owes Juventus a lot more. He's great because of Juventus.
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If it wasn't for the CLUB lawyers, he would be cleared of everything.
Sure. He wouldn't have even been accused :sergio:
Keep on dreaming.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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If it wasn't for the CLUB lawyers, he would be cleared of everything.
I see you are capitalising club as if our lawyers are in some way representative of the club as a whole. They are legal professionals (and incidentally Bongiorno is arguably the best in Italy) trying to make sense of a random sports prosecution. In an ordinary court the case would last about an hour.

We actually don't know what would have happened with Conte, as the examples of Pepe and Bonucci are linked to different incidents at Udinese and Bari. Seeing as many (including himself) believe he was being made an example of that is quite a leap you are making.
 

Fake Melo

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Sep 3, 2010
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We were linked with Capello and Vialli at some point. You can debate how it would finish but there were coaches available to take over. Juve did a favor to Conte by hiring him in the first place. It turned out great but there were a quite few raised eyebrows back then. And don't forget his playing career here. Conte owes Juventus a lot more. He's great because of Juventus.
Sure, we were linked with other coaches, but what good would that do? Would the supporters back Capello? What would happen when Vialli got sacked after three months?

Juve did Conte a favor by hiring him, he repayed that favor within one season when he made a team made to qualify CL win the Scudetto.

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I see you are capitalising club as if our lawyers are in some way representative of the club as a whole. They are legal professionals (and incidentally Bongiorno is arguably the best in Italy) trying to make sense of a random sports prosecution. In an ordinary court the case would last about an hour.

We actually don't know what would have happened with Conte, as the examples of Pepe and Bonucci are linked to difference incidents at Udinese and Bari. Seeing as many (including himself) believe he was being made an example of that is quite a leap you are making.
If I am not mistaking, club lawyers such as Briamonte were on the board of the directors. He had to resign following his masterplan of making Conte agree to a plea bargain.

Bongiorno only came in the picture after Briamonte stepped off, she did everything she could do but it wasn't enough.

Both Cannavaro and Grava were accused of the same thing, they didn't accept the plea bargain and were completely cleared on all charges, and mind you, there was stronger evidence against them, than Conte.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,028
Sure, we were linked with other coaches, but what good would that do? Would the supporters back Capello? What would happen when Vialli got sacked after three months?

Juve did Conte a favor by hiring him, he repayed that favor within one season when he made a team made to qualify CL win the Scudetto.
Who says he would get sacked? You're just guessing now.
And you forgot his playing career here. He acquired the right mentality with Juventus. I doubt he would be the coach or the player he was anywhere else.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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If I am not mistaking, club lawyers such as Briamonte were on the board of the directors. He had to resign following his masterplan of making Conte agree to a plea bargain.

Bongiorno only came in the picture after Briamonte stepped off, she did everything she could do but it wasn't enough.

Both Cannavaro and Grava were accused of the same thing, they didn't accept the plea bargain and were completely cleared on all charges, and mind you, there was stronger evidence against them, than Conte.
I'm pretty sure Bongiorno is a director at the club as well.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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It was too late. Our lawyers really fucked up before with that plea bargain.
It was Palazzi who asked for the plea bargain to get three months, which is what the lawyers agreed to, but the disciplinary committee decided to make it 10 months for reasons still unknown. So in short it didn't really matter what they did.

Conte's treatment wasn't the same as any other player or individual.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,028
It was Palazzi who asked for the plea bargain to get three months, which is what the lawyers agreed to, but the disciplinary committee decided to make it 10 months for reasons still unknown. So in short it didn't really matter what they did.
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I know but I've got a feeling they were just setting him up, burying him even more.
Conte's treatment wasn't the same as any other player or individual.
Yeah there were more media hype around him as always whenever we're involved
 

baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
19,250
It's undeniable that the club did stand by Conte even when they did not have to. They had no idea if the ban would be prolonged or what would happen - fact is that Conte had only been coaching a Serie A team for a year up until this point.

Conte is great, but the club believed in him and his career will be magnificent because of it.
The only thing Conte needs to be thankful for, is that Andrea Agnelli hired him. The club knew full well what they'd been through prior to Conte. And it was Cnte's own hand holding that took the club and it's players to a level nobody expected. Do you really think Agnelli hired Conte thinking he'd turn out the way he did? No. He hired him in the hope of having a young coach with fresh ideas to reinfect the club with some enthusiasm with a five year plan, most likely aiming to win anything in the second half of that plan. Conte was just so ahead of the curve, that nobody would've questioned him being banned for 10 months or an entire season because his work spoke for itself.

plz, conte is the biggest change in this club since moggi. look at the way it's run. marotta's role is magnified in this forum.

Conte added the mentality that made Juve a top club once more. He's the one pushing players to be all they can be. Juve and Agnelli should be thankful because Mr.Unibrow is clueless when it comes to these matters.
I agree with this. Agnelli is a Juve guy through and through, moreso than the Elkanns. But he was way too young to know how to go about rebuilding this club and taking it back to glory in the way that he saw as a youngster. Marrotta was absolutely cack for his first season here, and Conte's arrival changed a lot in terms of how we approached the mercato and the profile of players we spent money on and to what extent. Conte also has been in that competent environment before to know the kind of thinking the club had back in the day in match environments and strategy discussions when the stakes were high. Agnelli and Marrotta haven't.
 

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