Andrea "Il Bruco Brutto" Agnelli (65 Viewers)
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Could it be that building a smaller stadium was intended to limit/stop the presence of what the club may consider undesirable types (ultras), in much the same way that has happened in England?
Small(ish) stadium > demand outstrips supply > prices can be raised > undesirable types can't afford to go to the games.
No real basis for me saying this, just musing.
Small(ish) stadium > demand outstrips supply > prices can be raised > undesirable types can't afford to go to the games.
No real basis for me saying this, just musing.
Sadly this is true for England. But it doesn't work out as they want us to see it. First of all, not all ultras are violent. Second, a lot of true supporters on low-wage jobs won't make it to the stadium any longer. Others won't come for political reasons (Football for the corporations, not for the people).
And last, but most important, it doesn't solve the general problem. Non-violent supporters, who suddenly cannot afford it anymore will probably turn into violent supporters. Violent supporters won't become quiet and peaceful just because of not making it into the stadium. They will go on rampage somewhere else. On the long run you are enforcing hierachies and preparing riots.
And last, but most important, it doesn't solve the general problem. Non-violent supporters, who suddenly cannot afford it anymore will probably turn into violent supporters. Violent supporters won't become quiet and peaceful just because of not making it into the stadium. They will go on rampage somewhere else. On the long run you are enforcing hierachies and preparing riots.
The essential line in this post is that we did not foresee that the rising would take effect this soon. Juve weren't supposed to win the Scudetto this year - none believed that could happen! The reason for this is many but not least Inters' downfall. In two years time i predict a popularity increase unlike anything we would have expected. If we are truly compatible in CL and if we continue to play fast modern football with young players and keep on supplying the Azzurri with hot italian champions then we are to expect more attendances in the Juventus Stadium!
Don't we have the option to expand capacity at the stadium? I think the club intended that if I'm not mistaken. Also, 41k will have to at the very least become 50k, if we are to ever make the stadium available for the Champions League finals. Juve deserves to have it's stadium showcased in the champions league and not Europa.
The ones we compete with do aproach those numbers some times, when they will build new stadiums, they surely will. Heck even Napoli achieves those numbers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadio_San_Paolo
imagine the numbers they will achieve with new stadiums! I believe that they will build smaller stadiums, but not that small though.
I know you are just musing, since we both know that the ultimate goal is the profit.
This is an interesting perspective as an option for the current situation though, the least we can do, is at least secure, that easy to handle stadium.
AA has actually mentioned that it was a part of our concerns and the ways the gates are made offer more effective crowd control.
The same could be done if the stadium was a 5ok seat though. At any case, it doesnt seem to be working...as we have seen with all those fines we are getting...
and its sad as it is, if we made a 10k seat compromise only for that, it is a failure of epic proportions...
o, the bias, like i m the one who cant reason with arguments, not the ones who are only capable of mockery one liners without any content and choose brain dead childish gifs to represent them.
Any yet here you are again in yet another desperate effort to defame me!! Why all the hate?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadio_San_Paolo
imagine the numbers they will achieve with new stadiums! I believe that they will build smaller stadiums, but not that small though.
I know you are just musing, since we both know that the ultimate goal is the profit.
This is an interesting perspective as an option for the current situation though, the least we can do, is at least secure, that easy to handle stadium.
AA has actually mentioned that it was a part of our concerns and the ways the gates are made offer more effective crowd control.
The same could be done if the stadium was a 5ok seat though. At any case, it doesnt seem to be working...as we have seen with all those fines we are getting...
and its sad as it is, if we made a 10k seat compromise only for that, it is a failure of epic proportions...
o, the bias, like i m the one who cant reason with arguments, not the ones who are only capable of mockery one liners without any content and choose brain dead childish gifs to represent them.
Any yet here you are again in yet another desperate effort to defame me!! Why all the hate?
My only concern with that would be the visibility for the fans in the third tier if that were to happen.
JS has a steep slope, and looking at the configurations of the stadium in its current state, it doesn't look as if it can be expanded outwards without compromising the original footprint. It would have to be expanded upwards, and that in and of itslef could lead to the seats being somewhat less than desirable.
Then, I think you would have to factor in the costs to expand the stadium against the revenue being generated by those seats, and how look it would take Juve to recoup the costs.
JS has a steep slope, and looking at the configurations of the stadium in its current state, it doesn't look as if it can be expanded outwards without compromising the original footprint. It would have to be expanded upwards, and that in and of itslef could lead to the seats being somewhat less than desirable.
Then, I think you would have to factor in the costs to expand the stadium against the revenue being generated by those seats, and how look it would take Juve to recoup the costs.
I think we made a mistake when analysing the big picture before building the stadium. Our management wanted to maximize the effect of the stadium by building one that will suit the average attendance. But now, that we have the statistics from last season it's clear they have miscalculated something. And what went wrong was only partially considering the effect of brand NEW stadium, not to mention the first of it's type in Italy. We sold out every single Seria A match (or almost sold out) and that just shows the fans interest. My point is let's say we have 55 000 seated stadium and we play Pescara - the attendance may be 45k(ok?) and that will be the matter playing with bottom table/mid table teams, but in CL(at least 6 games 55k sold out) , when playing the likes of Milan, Inter, Napoli, Lazio, Roma, Fiorentina, Udinese(7x2=14) all those games will be sold out(considering with recent success interest only raises). That makes at least 20 sold out games in a 55k seated stadium, i think it's worth it...
