I don't recall ever speaking for you, and I'll post where I please, thanks. If I weren't on here it would just be a bunch of arabs slagging off the west. Someone has got to stick up for the other side of the debate.
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A valiant effort, but blowing yourself up can never be justified imo, you've got to have some sort of problem to even consider it. People are murdered all over the world, race hate crimes happen all the time in the UK - can't think of one time where the victim's dad has blown himself up as a revenge thing.
Its VERY high in fact, I'd wager much more so than your own in any case. Yes, I do happen to believe that arabs (not all, but more than you are willing to concede) are willing to blow themselves up in the name of allah.
People go on about how its a peaceful religion but there's only so many times thats going to wash. Its the ONLY religion where this happens, the minute anyone criticises the religion and you're all up in arms demanding sacrifices!
If you ask me the world would be a much much btter place without Islam, terrorism would be virtually annulled and people might just be able to get along. Its ridiculous really how a load of teachings with no grounding in reality can inspire such hatred and stupidity. Thats life I guess
People go on about how its a peaceful religion but there's only so many times thats going to wash. Its the ONLY religion where this happens, the minute anyone criticises the religion and you're all up in arms demanding sacrifices!
If you ask me the world would be a much much btter place without Islam, terrorism would be virtually annulled and people might just be able to get along. Its ridiculous really how a load of teachings with no grounding in reality can inspire such hatred and stupidity. Thats life I guess
I don't think it's that religion specifically Tom. Five hundred years ago, heck two hundred years ago, you could have made the same case about Christianity's effect on Europe. The problem is deeper than religion. It's down to people who are poor and pissed off turning to the only outlet available to them, and certain people being willing to manipulate them.
Put it this way: "Thou shalt not kill" didn't save people from the Spanish Inquisition, or the crusades, or the witch hunts, yet all of those things were done in the name of Christianity.
Put it this way: "Thou shalt not kill" didn't save people from the Spanish Inquisition, or the crusades, or the witch hunts, yet all of those things were done in the name of Christianity.
That is true. Also I'd like to remind people the majority of Muslims live in Indonesia, not the Middle-East so the generalisation Arab=Muslim or vice versa simply doesn't go.
What's fascinating to witness is the different interpretations of Islam found in Indonesia. I wish I had the time to research more into that...
What's fascinating to witness is the different interpretations of Islam found in Indonesia. I wish I had the time to research more into that...
ETA, the Balkan wars and even the IRA have little to do with religion. Religion might be an aspect those cases but was never the driving force. The IRA's main goal is the unification of the Irish island as I recall. ETA wishes to establish their own state and the Balkan wars were mostly about ethnicity and independence.
But I agree the 'mightier than thou attitude' displayed by some Europeans makes little sense.
But I agree the 'mightier than thou attitude' displayed by some Europeans makes little sense.
Yes, you're right. I know all about the crusades etc, and its true they were done in the name of god which is very much akin to whats happening now. The difference being that its a current problem. Christians have for the most part grown up, practise their faith with little fuss and certainly don't react violently to any criticisms directed their way.
This is a current problem, and as far as I'm aware only one religion has this problem.
I mean its one thing being poor and pissed off but blowing yourself up? Its utter madness, you'd have to be a certain sort of person to ever get brainwashed into believing all that jihad nonsense, you cannot just be a victim of circumstance.
At the end of the day the world would surely be a much better place without religion, can't think of a single positive thing its given this world, and so many negatives.
This is a current problem, and as far as I'm aware only one religion has this problem.
I mean its one thing being poor and pissed off but blowing yourself up? Its utter madness, you'd have to be a certain sort of person to ever get brainwashed into believing all that jihad nonsense, you cannot just be a victim of circumstance.
At the end of the day the world would surely be a much better place without religion, can't think of a single positive thing its given this world, and so many negatives.
the media can and does tend to exaggerate or diminish facts in order to suit their aims more adequately. however, I doubt their ability to completely make up facts out of the blue, as this would not be accepted. so, I don't think anyone can deny that a figment of reality does exist in the Western newspapers, regardless the issue and the country's personal involvement in it. Moreover, often newspapers have contradicting views about such subjects.
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