Zebina signed(?) and Emerson-case continues (6 Viewers)

Bjerknes

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++ [ originally posted by Martin ] ++


You guys don't waste time, do you? First season as a regular for Monaco, a run in the U21 and whooa best in the world. Who could say no to that... :D
Well I mean come on, Roberto Carlos is not and frankley never was the the best LB in the world. Porto's Nuno Valente is not as good as Evra, neither is Bridge from Chelsea, or even Romero or Capdevilla from Depor. So it is ever apparent to me, after watching Evra lately, that he is the best LB in the world at the moment.
 
Jul 12, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Martin ] ++
You guys don't waste time, do you? First season as a regular for Monaco, a run in the U21 and whooa best in the world. Who could say no to that... :D
:LOL: I can say no to that. If you're going to name the best left back in the world, it isn't Evra. I couldn't chose between Wayne Bridge and Roberto Carlos.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Ian ] ++


:LOL: I can say no to that. If you're going to name the best left back in the world, it isn't Evra. I couldn't chose between Wayne Bridge and Roberto Carlos.
Believe me, I have watched Chelsea countless times this season, and Bridge is overated. Evra is stronger and faster than Bridge, and he doesn't play in England, which is a plus 1 point in my books for Patrice.
 
Jul 12, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Andrea Becchi ] ++
Believe me, I have watched Chelsea countless times this season, and Bridge is overated. Evra is stronger and faster than Bridge, and he doesn't play in England, which is a plus 1 point in my books for Patrice.
Alright, I might accept the argument that he plays in Enlgand, therefore his peformances must be taken in context, however Evra plays in France! If the English league is easy on players, then the French league is a holiday. Evra may be slightly faster than Bridge, but he's certainly not stronger. Furthermore, Bridge is a better crosser, has better ball skills, and it's not even close when you talk about defensive ability...
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Ian ] ++


Alright, I might accept the argument that he plays in Enlgand, therefore his peformances must be taken in context, however Evra plays in France! If the English league is easy on players, then the French league is a holiday. Evra may be slightly faster than Bridge, but he's certainly not stronger. Furthermore, Bridge is a better crosser, has better ball skills, and it's not even close when you talk about defensive ability...
When I say he plays in England, I mean he is an English footballer, and I don't rate their kind highly. And I am talking about Evra's performances in the Champions League, where he has out played every competing LB in the whole competiton. That to me shows he is class, and right now he is the best LB on earth in my books.
 

Stu

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Jul 14, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Ian ] ++


:LOL: I can say no to that. If you're going to name the best left back in the world, it isn't Evra. I couldn't chose between Wayne Bridge and Roberto Carlos.
Bridge is class, but Bob Carlos? :undecide: I didn't see that coming from you. If you rate Carlos that highly then surely Evra is at least up there, right?
 

Stu

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Jul 14, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Andrea Becchi ] ++


When I say he plays in England, I mean he is an English footballer, and I don't rate their kind highly. And I am talking about Evra's performances in the Champions League, where he has out played every competing LB in the whole competiton. That to me shows he is class, and right now he is the best LB on earth in my books.
Bridge and Evra are on par imo. If anything, the Englishman is very slightly ahead :)
 

Bjerknes

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++ [ originally posted by Stuart ] ++


Bridge and Evra are on par imo. If anything, the Englishman is very slightly ahead :)
But the Englishman is of course English, so the tie breaker would go to Evra, cuz he is French. :D
 
Jul 12, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Andrea Becchi ] ++
When I say he plays in England, I mean he is an English footballer, and I don't rate their kind highly. And I am talking about Evra's performances in the Champions League, where he has out played every competing LB in the whole competiton. That to me shows he is class, and right now he is the best LB on earth in my books.
First of all, I'm a slightly disgusted at your gross generalisation of English footballers. English footballers repressent a broad range of ability and class; to rate them lower simply because of their nationality is ignorant and smacks of bigotry.

Next, Evra has not out-performed all the other left backs in the competition. Bridge played many games better than Evra's best, as did Stuttgard's Lahm. He is class, but to call him the best on earth is certainly a stretch. He's had the advantage of Rothen on his wing while Bridge has had to carry the left wing load himself when Duff is not on the pitch and Damien has been injured a lot. Furthermore, Rothen helps out Evra with the defense, while Bridge never gets any such assistance and he stills performs just as good if not better than Evra.
 
Jul 12, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Stuart ] ++
Bridge is class, but Bob Carlos? :undecide: I didn't see that coming from you. If you rate Carlos that highly then surely Evra is at least up there, right?
I'll not say that Roberto Carlos has good defensive skills, because he doesn't. But, in terms of effectiveness, he has to be right up there because the simple threat of him going forward is more often than not enough to convince the opposing winger to stay back, just in case. Furthermore, he's the fastest left back out there with the possible exception of Ashley Cole. That hs to give him some credit, and his free kicks are a plus too. I mean, I don't like him, and I'd rather not have him on my team, but speaking honestly, he is maybe the most effective left back out there in terms of the complete performance required of the modern fullback.
 

Stu

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++ [ originally posted by Ian ] ++


I'll not say that Roberto Carlos has good defensive skills, because he doesn't. But, in terms of effectiveness, he has to be right up there because the simple threat of him going forward is more often than not enough to convince the opposing winger to stay back, just in case. Furthermore, he's the fastest left back out there with the possible exception of Ashley Cole. That hs to give him some credit, and his free kicks are a plus too. I mean, I don't like him, and I'd rather not have him on my team, but speaking honestly, he is maybe the most effective left back out there in terms of the complete performance required of the modern fullback.
I disagree. Carlos is fast, I'll give you that, but his craving for going forward is the cause of so many goals Real Madrid concede. His free kicks suck, and if I was an opposing winger I would do the very opposite of what you're saying. Rather than staying back to help my full back cover Carlos I'd be sure to be ready to make him pay for going forward and losing possession. Bridge is much more effective than Roberto Carlos, as are Evra and Zambrotta to name a few.
 

Stu

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Jul 14, 2002
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So Ian, I'm yet to hear what you think about the signing of Roma's cultured French stopper Jonothan Zebina to Juventus FC on a Bosman transfer ;)
 

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