You're going to hell if you __________ (12 Viewers)
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This is what I find funny:
This guy, Puin, a specialist in Arabic caligraphy and Koranic paleography finds these differences in the Qu'ran that no one else was able to find
Man, even the diggers who supposedly put the partchments in bags and put them away could have seen differences. I finished reading the Qur'an when I was four years old and I've probably read it in its completion probably over 50x since then.I could have seen a difference. I don't need a non-Muslim expert from Germany to come and tell me that.
This guy, Puin, a specialist in Arabic caligraphy and Koranic paleography finds these differences in the Qu'ran that no one else was able to find
Man, even the diggers who supposedly put the partchments in bags and put them away could have seen differences. I finished reading the Qur'an when I was four years old and I've probably read it in its completion probably over 50x since then.I could have seen a difference. I don't need a non-Muslim expert from Germany to come and tell me that.
Puin isn't basing his case at all on these things. These were just few things seen during his preliminary inspection. As normal and easily noticable these things are, as a scientist he still had to mention them.
I don't know how on earth you got the idea that I excused those who want to kill him from that. If you look over that post again, I was saying that there are good Muslims and bad Muslims just as there are good Albanians and bad Albanians. I don't bunch everyone together and generalize all of them so maybe you should find it in your heart to do the same. That make more sense now?
Btw, I just proved God right now
My car hasn't been turning on all day and I've talked to three different mechanics and they all had their own theories. All of them which would have cost me a lot of headache and money. I even had a friend come out and try to make it work. I just went out right now and said Bismillah-a-Rahman-ar-Raheem (In the name of God the Gracious the Merciful) and did some McGyver shit and boom! It's working now
Btw, I just proved God right now
My car hasn't been turning on all day and I've talked to three different mechanics and they all had their own theories. All of them which would have cost me a lot of headache and money. I even had a friend come out and try to make it work. I just went out right now and said Bismillah-a-Rahman-ar-Raheem (In the name of God the Gracious the Merciful) and did some McGyver shit and boom! It's working now Anyway, Ze, if you have nothing against it, i will stop this discussion.
I'm 100% convinced that the Qur'an is a work of men. Completely.
Can it be proven? I think it can be easily proven if/when the Muslims decide that it's time to prove it.
There is a lot at stake if something like that is proven today. I'd go as far as saying that the faith of the world is at stake. No-one with enough power, both in the muslim world and in the west, wants something like that proven atm and everything will be done so it won't be proven.
Only a crazy person would seriously try to prove it, and even he/she won't be allowed to do it.
It's just not the time to do it.
Yes, i'm aware how this sounds, but i believe that's how it is.
Since we obviously have completely different opinion and i surely can't prove beyond any doubt that the Qur'an is a work of men, i don't see why should we continue the discussion.
I'm 100% convinced that the Qur'an is a work of men. Completely.
Can it be proven? I think it can be easily proven if/when the Muslims decide that it's time to prove it.
There is a lot at stake if something like that is proven today. I'd go as far as saying that the faith of the world is at stake. No-one with enough power, both in the muslim world and in the west, wants something like that proven atm and everything will be done so it won't be proven.
Only a crazy person would seriously try to prove it, and even he/she won't be allowed to do it.
It's just not the time to do it.
Yes, i'm aware how this sounds, but i believe that's how it is.
Since we obviously have completely different opinion and i surely can't prove beyond any doubt that the Qur'an is a work of men, i don't see why should we continue the discussion.
With all due respect, this discussion should never have taken place in the first place. I'm naive to discuss a subject you have 0 knowledge about. Anyone that makes a statement that their 100% sure that it's a work of men without reading the book shouldn't be taken seriously (if you had read it then we would have something to discuss).
I don't know how on earth you got the idea that I excused those who want to kill him from that. If you look over that post again, I was saying that there are good Muslims and bad Muslims just as there are good Albanians and bad Albanians. I don't bunch everyone together and generalize all of them so maybe you should find it in your heart to do the same. That make more sense now?
Btw, I just proved God right now My car hasn't been turning on all day and I've talked to three different mechanics and they all had their own theories. All of them which would have cost me a lot of headache and money. I even had a friend come out and try to make it work. I just went out right now and said Bismillah-a-Rahman-ar-Raheem (In the name of God the Gracious the Merciful) and did some McGyver shit and boom! It's working now
Btw, I just proved God right now
My car hasn't been turning on all day and I've talked to three different mechanics and they all had their own theories. All of them which would have cost me a lot of headache and money. I even had a friend come out and try to make it work. I just went out right now and said Bismillah-a-Rahman-ar-Raheem (In the name of God the Gracious the Merciful) and did some McGyver shit and boom! It's working now
so i am asking you more directly now. did the dutch filmmaker guy deserve to die?