Your ideal world cup tournament (7 Viewers)

[Snoop]

sure, what is wrong with that?

the likes of Cameroon, Nigeria, Senegal, Egypt, Morocco, Tunisia, Ivory Coast, Ghana south africa etc..? or the likes of Paraguay, Chili, Venezuella colombia and the other shity teams? Africa games is improving day by day, African players are regulars now in the best clubs of the world, and what about South America? whcih team makes threat in this tour other than Argentina and Brazil?

other than Brazil and Argentina, there are 8 teams left there (If I am not mistaken) 2 from those Crap teams is more than enough..

 

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[Menace]

I heard that Africans are better in bed too

 

[king Ale]

sure, what is wrong with that?

the likes of Cameroon, Nigeria, Senegal, Egypt, Morocco, Tunisia, Ivory Coast, Ghana etc..? or the likes of Paraguay, Chili, Venezuella colombia and the other shity teams? Africa games is improving day by day, African players are regulars now in the best clubs of the world, and what about South America? whcih team makes threat in this tour other than Argentina and Brazil?

other than Brazil and Argentina, there are 8 teams left there (If I am not mistaken) 2 from those Crap teams is more than enough..

this 'those crap teams' are at the level of Egypt,Morocco and Tunisia.I even can name some in Concacaf and Asia who are at this level.

 

[Joaco]

sure, what is wrong with that?

the likes of Cameroon, Nigeria, Senegal, Egypt, Morocco, Tunisia, Ivory Coast, Ghana south africa etc..? or the likes of Paraguay, Chili, Venezuella colombia and the other shity teams? Africa games is improving day by day, African players are regulars now in the best clubs of the world, and what about South America? whcih team makes threat in this tour other than Argentina and Brazil?

other than Brazil and Argentina, there are 8 teams left there (If I am not mistaken) 2 from those Crap teams is more than enough..

Hey, Chile is not that bad...

 

[Snoop]

this 'those crap teams' are at the level of Egypt,Morocco and Tunisia.I even can name some in Concacaf and Asia who are at this level.

could be true or not, that's not my point. they are already 5 anyway, so I made it 4, what's the big deal by making 4, at least you will see a less boring team like Paraguays or Ecuadors. 5 out of ten is simply too much..

 

[Bjerknes]

sure, what is wrong with that?

the likes of Cameroon, Nigeria, Senegal, Egypt, Morocco, Tunisia, Ivory Coast, Ghana south africa etc..? or the likes of Paraguay, Chili, Venezuella colombia and the other shity teams? Africa games is improving day by day, African players are regulars now in the best clubs of the world, and what about South America? whcih team makes threat in this tour other than Argentina and Brazil?

other than Brazil and Argentina, there are 8 teams left there (If I am not mistaken) 2 from those Crap teams is more than enough..

Yeah, crap teams alright. Shitty teams such as Ecuador who just beat the worthless Poles by two goals to nothing. Or a crap team such as Paraguay that only fell short to the probable third best team in the world England by only one goal. Or a crap team such as Uruguay that missed out on a finals berth only because Hiddink is a magical manager. Yeah, crap teams alright.

I would like to see a team such as Tunisia or Togo beat Poland at the World Cup, or countries such as Nigeria or Cameroon not choke again against stiff opposition. A team such as Venezuela would beat Angola and undoubtedly progress further than Rwanda. Oh, and I also forgot about supposed crap teams such as Colombia and Chile...like they don't have a better chance than South Africa or Morocco at the World Cup..

Everybody always talks about Africa being the next best thing...but even Africa's best, namely the Cote, looked out-classed when they played Argentina. Giving Africa three more spots than South America is perhaps the most ridiculous notion I have heard regarding international football on this forum.

 

[Bjerknes]

could be true or not, that's not my point. they are already 5 anyway, so I made it 4, what's the big deal by making 4, at least you will see a less boring team like Paraguays or Ecuadors. 5 out of ten is simply too much..

Yeah, who cares about Santa Cruz and Paredes. I want to see Akwa and Mendonca.

 

[Byrone]

Yeah, crap teams alright. Shitty teams such as Ecuador who just beat the worthless Poles by two goals to nothing. Or a crap team such as Paraguay that only fell short to the probable third best team in the world England by only one goal. Or a crap team such as Uruguay that missed out on a finals berth only because Hiddink is a magical manager. Yeah, crap teams alright.

I would like to see a team such as Tunisia or Togo beat Poland at the World Cup, or countries such as Nigeria or Cameroon not choke again against stiff opposition. A team such as Venezuela would beat Angola and undoubtedly progress further than Rwanda. Oh, and I also forgot about supposed crap teams such as Colombia and Chile...like they don't have a better chance than South Africa or Morocco at the World Cup..

Everybody always talks about Africa being the next best thing...but even Africa's best, namely the Cote, looked out-classed when they played Argentina. Giving Africa three more spots than South America is perhaps the most ridiculous notion I have heard regarding international football on this forum.

Thats just a thumbsuck notion Andy!First off,were we watching the same game? Ivory Coast were all over Argentina & they lost plainly due to their poor finishing.African teams have poor infrastructure & management & also the various national associations aren't too clued up with the development of young players.If any european or south american team had to deal with the kinda up hill difficulties that africans teams face,do u think they would be any better?

You think that its fair that Australia have to face a South American team in a playoff?Excuse me Andy,but emaphasise on the word
"World" it seems that if u had it ur way,it would be solely contested with europe & north & south america.When was the last time a team like Chile or Colombia made decent progress in the WC?Try & spin it any way u want but Africa is financially unable to compete with the rest of the footballing world & nevermind that Africa has only been involved in the WC from 1970.

 

[flieeeekke]

Yeah, crap teams alright. Shitty teams such as Ecuador who just beat the worthless Poles by two goals to nothing. Or a crap team such as Paraguay that only fell short to the probable third best team in the world England by only one goal. Or a crap team such as Uruguay that missed out on a finals berth only because Hiddink is a magical manager. Yeah, crap teams alright.

I would like to see a team such as Tunisia or Togo beat Poland at the World Cup, or countries such as Nigeria or Cameroon not choke again against stiff opposition. A team such as Venezuela would beat Angola and undoubtedly progress further than Rwanda. Oh, and I also forgot about supposed crap teams such as Colombia and Chile...like they don't have a better chance than South Africa or Morocco at the World Cup..

Everybody always talks about Africa being the next best thing...but even Africa's best, namely the Cote, looked out-classed when they played Argentina. Giving Africa three more spots than South America is perhaps the most ridiculous notion I have heard regarding international football on this forum.

the most ridiculous thing is concacaf getting 4 sports. i'll be damned, trinidad and tobago with costa rica. i, personally, would love to see cameroon or nigeria istead.


and i agree, 5 spots for south america is too much.

 

[denco]

From readind Andy's post am i to gather he is implying that Paraguay and Ecuador performed better than Ivory Coast. Paraguay were extremely poor and England were not good yesterday but Paraguay were terrible, diving all over the place , shooting stupidly from anywhere and the less said about Ecuador the better it is .
I am too of the opinion that outide Brazil and Argentina, there is no chance in hell of anyother South American team doing reasonably in the world cup.

I think maybe for the sake of making it a worl event and all that you could argue that teams from other continents besides \south America and Europe deserve a better chance as they definitely will add more colour so i might take away 3 Europen teams to accommodate them as the likes of Sweden just don't seem to add anything fresh to the competition apart from their fans and to be honest thats the only reason i picked them

 

[JCK]

From readind Andy's post am i to gather he is implying that Paraguay and Ecuador performed better than Ivory Coast. Paraguay were extremely poor and England were not good yesterday but Paraguay were terrible, diving all over the place , shooting stupidly from anywhere and the less said about Ecuador the better it is .
I am too of the opinion that outide Brazil and Argentina, there is no chance in hell of anyother South American team doing reasonably in the world cup.

I think maybe for the sake of making it a worl event and all that you could argue that teams from other continents besides \south America and Europe deserve a better chance as they definitely will add more colour so i might take away 3 Europen teams to accommodate them as the likes of Sweden just don't seem to add anything fresh to the competition apart from their fans and to be honest thats the only reason i picked them

:biggrin:

You like Swedish fans.

 

[Slagathor]

The problem lies in the zones. We currently have a couple of extremely weak qualifying zones that send in their marginal entries that turn out to become the tournament's whipping boys. That's no good at all. We only need 3 zones, really:

1) Europe
2) America (North, South and Central)
3) Afro-Asia (Africa, Asia, Oceania)

To prevent an insane number of games to be played; let the small teams play against each other first. Luxembourg vs Liechenstein and shite like that before the big guns join the qualification rounds.

 

[Byrone]

The problem lies in the zones. We currently have a couple of extremely weak qualifying zones that send in their marginal entries that turn out to become the tournament's whipping boys. That's no good at all. We only need 3 zones, really:

1) Europe
2) America (North, South and Central)
3) Afro-Asia (Africa, Asia, Oceania)

To prevent an insane number of games to be played; let the small teams play against each other first. Luxembourg vs Liechenstein and shite like that before the big guns join the qualification rounds.

Good idea Erik,but how would they go about seperating the men from the boys?i mean fifa's world ranking system is a friggin joke & national teams would obviously be up in arms if they were paired with a team that they deemed inferior to theirs.

 

[Slagathor]

Good idea Erik,but how would they go about seperating the men from the boys?i mean fifa's world ranking system is a friggin joke & national teams would obviously be up in arms if they were paired with a team that they deemed inferior to theirs.

UEFA's seeding system is very realistic. If the rest of the world copies that, I don't see any problems.

EDIT: Barring the Italians but they don't know what the fuck is going on most of the time anyway. When they (through their own doing) end up in a disfavourable position it's always the system's fault...

 

[Geof]

EDIT: Barring the Italians but they don't know what the fuck is going on most of the time anyway. When they (through their own doing) end up in a disfavourable position it's always the system's fault...

Argentina blame Pelé for sending them twice in the most difficult group....

 

[Bjerknes]

Thats just a thumbsuck notion Andy!First off,were we watching the same game? Ivory Coast were all over Argentina & they lost plainly due to their poor finishing.African teams have poor infrastructure & management & also the various national associations aren't too clued up with the development of young players.If any european or south american team had to deal with the kinda up hill difficulties that africans teams face,do u think they would be any better?

You think that its fair that Australia have to face a South American team in a playoff?Excuse me Andy,but emaphasise on the word
"World" it seems that if u had it ur way,it would be solely contested with europe & north & south america.When was the last time a team like Chile or Colombia made decent progress in the WC?Try & spin it any way u want but Africa is financially unable to compete with the rest of the footballing world & nevermind that Africa has only been involved in the WC from 1970.

Look, the fact of the matter is teams such as Tunisia, Togo, Angola, and South Africa are not as good as their South American counterparts vying for the same place in the tournament. When has more than one African team actually done something in one respective World Cup? I seriously cannot think of more than one each tournament and teams such as Cameroon and Nigeria seemingly choke on the big stage. Paraguay reached the second round in the last World Cup FFS and Ecuador is about to do the same thing. Please seriously give me an argument as to how the African teams I mentioned in my first sentence are better than Paraguay, Ecuador, or even Uruguay. That's right, they aren't worth much. And I'm not talking about finances here.

What does Australia got to do with this...I did not even mention them and of course Oceania should have their own berth in the competition. That's besides the point. Hell, they should take away one from the Africans and insert Oceania..

I am not sure why you're lecturing me on the "World Cup" and how I am supposedly limiting this tournament to two continents. Of course Africa should be given enough spots in the tournament...but not as many as seven..

That is why I said how about we just keep it the way it is? Both Africa and South America have a fair number of spots. I just had a problem with snoop calling South American nations crap when that is all Angola really is.

 

[Snoop]

the competition to earn a ticket for a world cup for African teams is not fair at all, there are lots of good teams there that would add color to the world cup, and even the system there for qualifying is wrong. Togo or Angola shouldn't be there at all.

Ecuador beat "worthless" Poland, just like you called. The whole world beat Poland in the friendlies, Poland shouldn't be there at all. Denmark, Turkey, even Greece are all went out because the spots are not enough in Europe, and what's the result? we have teams Crapy Asian and south American teams instead.

African teams play it different, more entertaining and not like paraguay or others, by diving all the time.


btw, I agree with Erik's Idea about the zones, that would be awsome!

 

[Martin]

Ecuador beat "worthless" Poland, just like you called. The whole world beat Poland in the friendlies, Poland shouldn't be there at all.

Oh fuck off, we qualified fair and square, we nearly even won the group ahead of England. We also beat Croatia (very luckily) in our last friendly last week. Just because we lost a few friendlies is no reason to claim we didn't deserve to play in the World Cup. FFS Frankowski and Zurawski scored 13 goals between them in the qualifiers.

 

[flieeeekke]

not to mention poland didnt deserve to lose against ecuador.

 

[Martin]

not to mention poland didnt deserve to lose against ecuador.

Oh yes we did, we were horrid. Not a shot on goal for the first 80 minutes, what the hell is that??