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Exactly..
Well thats how we Albanian feel, so you can say the same, We will never give up untill we get our State.. Now we got it, with USA and the rest of the World with us..(big part of the world 
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They where the first to say yes to Kosova's Independece
How can you say this Enron ?
A piece of one's country has been taken. You really think the Serbs will forget this and leave it as it is ?
Palestine is an example par excellence of what can we expect.
The only difference is that the Serbs are a lot more stubborn than the Arabs and they are some really crazy motherfuckers (not in a bad way, Dule).
You can bomb them 100 more times but they won't give up.
A piece of one's country has been taken. You really think the Serbs will forget this and leave it as it is ?
Palestine is an example par excellence of what can we expect.
The only difference is that the Serbs are a lot more stubborn than the Arabs and they are some really crazy motherfuckers (not in a bad way, Dule
).You can bomb them 100 more times but they won't give up.
)They where the first to say yes to Kosova's Independece
Well, you had to live with them in your original country before moving to Canada, and you don't like them at all. It's not just one post that indicates that.
Anyway, it's not my intention to derail the thread. I was merely asking a tiny question after seeing the repeated story of the 9 year-old girl.
Anyway, it's not my intention to derail the thread. I was merely asking a tiny question after seeing the repeated story of the 9 year-old girl.
to be honest i am not joking about the WWIII scenario, for anybody in europe this should eb a real worry. balkan troubles ripped the heart out of us once before and plunged neighbours against each other, this is anot something we all wish to see again....but it will remain a distinct possibility while the turmoil remains
exactly, while we may be a long way off this it should not be pushed top the back of our minds
come on aaron no3 was good:xmas:
exactly, while we may be a long way off this it should not be pushed top the back of our minds
Go fook yourself. 
Sure, there will be war in the Balkans. But it won't last long and it won't get to the grand scale that is being dreamed up in this thread. Why? Because the world won't let it get that big.
You think all the powers that set up Kosova's independence are going to let a war go on? At the first sign of a war the UN and NATO fill the region with peacekeepers. The West isn't going to allow their "baby" to go to crap in the first years of its inception. The funny thing is that US troops will most likely not be involved in peacekeeping.
Why? We don't have any more troops. Simply enough, we have extended our military resources about as far as they can go. Also, we are beginning to swich administrations in a country already fed up with war for profit. That and we really don't have much of a reason to have troops in Serbia, compared to that of the Middle East. I mean, maybe if Serbia starts flying planes into our buildings, maybe they have a shot at us coming to dinner.* And the fact that it is impossible for us to hold positions in both the Middle East and the Balkans. It would have to be one or the other, not both. That aside, all the reasons, good and bad, for invading countries: terrorism, oil, fighting terrorism, oil, bases, oil, Dubai and money, are mostly found in the Middle East.**
As for the theory that Russia, Serbia, and the Middle Eastern countries will unite for some huge Battle Royal with the West is a bit absurd. With the exception of Russia and Serbia, none of the other countries in question are allied strong enough to embark on such an endeavor. As for nukes, get out of here...with the exception of the Terminator I don't see nuclear war in our future. No one wants to destroy the world. The leaders of Iran and North Korea still want to be able to sip their Congac and smoke their tobacco in golden thrones, once they take this joint over.
This said, will there be increased tension in regions for years and decades to come? Yes, of course.
Could there eventually be a war in the Balkans? Yes, in about 10 years when Europe gets tired of baby sitting Kosova. I expect Serbia to attempt to take her lands back. Who knows? Maybe even sooner.
Here's the real question as for me:
Will the US still be involved in World politics by then? I really hope not. I think Mr. Obama will pay attention to the past Presidents and stop this policy of manipulation for our own (US) needs.
One word of advice to my Serbian friends, remember to put the toilet seat down when you guys are done with our Embassy.
*Thats a joke. Don't really do that.
**I do know Kosova has oil, but not on the same magnitude as the Middle East. Plus we are already there. It would cost too much to move and you know what misers we can be.
You think all the powers that set up Kosova's independence are going to let a war go on? At the first sign of a war the UN and NATO fill the region with peacekeepers. The West isn't going to allow their "baby" to go to crap in the first years of its inception. The funny thing is that US troops will most likely not be involved in peacekeeping.
Why? We don't have any more troops. Simply enough, we have extended our military resources about as far as they can go. Also, we are beginning to swich administrations in a country already fed up with war for profit. That and we really don't have much of a reason to have troops in Serbia, compared to that of the Middle East. I mean, maybe if Serbia starts flying planes into our buildings, maybe they have a shot at us coming to dinner.* And the fact that it is impossible for us to hold positions in both the Middle East and the Balkans. It would have to be one or the other, not both. That aside, all the reasons, good and bad, for invading countries: terrorism, oil, fighting terrorism, oil, bases, oil, Dubai and money, are mostly found in the Middle East.**
As for the theory that Russia, Serbia, and the Middle Eastern countries will unite for some huge Battle Royal with the West is a bit absurd. With the exception of Russia and Serbia, none of the other countries in question are allied strong enough to embark on such an endeavor. As for nukes, get out of here...with the exception of the Terminator I don't see nuclear war in our future. No one wants to destroy the world. The leaders of Iran and North Korea still want to be able to sip their Congac and smoke their tobacco in golden thrones, once they take this joint over.
This said, will there be increased tension in regions for years and decades to come? Yes, of course.
Could there eventually be a war in the Balkans? Yes, in about 10 years when Europe gets tired of baby sitting Kosova. I expect Serbia to attempt to take her lands back. Who knows? Maybe even sooner.
Here's the real question as for me:
Will the US still be involved in World politics by then? I really hope not. I think Mr. Obama will pay attention to the past Presidents and stop this policy of manipulation for our own (US) needs.
One word of advice to my Serbian friends, remember to put the toilet seat down when you guys are done with our Embassy.
*Thats a joke. Don't really do that.
**I do know Kosova has oil, but not on the same magnitude as the Middle East. Plus we are already there. It would cost too much to move and you know what misers we can be.
Am I right in assuming that the Serbs view Kosovo like the Jews view Jerusalem, ie: they see it as the cultural and religious center of their people?
If that's the case, regardless of who it belongs to, y bother getting involved? The people will obviously never accept it. Seems like unneccessary meddling by the International community. They have an ethical right to keep the peace, hence NATO, but choosing sides is none of their business, and actually works against their interest of peace.
I doubt a serious war though. The U.S, U.K, France, etc already took that into consideration, otherwise they wouldn't have got involved.
If that's the case, regardless of who it belongs to, y bother getting involved? The people will obviously never accept it. Seems like unneccessary meddling by the International community. They have an ethical right to keep the peace, hence NATO, but choosing sides is none of their business, and actually works against their interest of peace.
I doubt a serious war though. The U.S, U.K, France, etc already took that into consideration, otherwise they wouldn't have got involved.