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Zé Tahir

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Dec 10, 2004
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Serbs enact plan to sabotage Kosovo

By Nick Thorpe
BBC News, Pristina


One week since the declaration of independence, Serb authorities in north-western Kosovo are pushing hard to eradicate all institutions with any connection to the new state.

And they are telling a cautious and already weakened UN mission, in its last months in office, that it should allow this - or face dire consequences.

There is genuine Serb grief over the loss of Kosovo, but there is also a carefully calibrated plan to win important parts of it back, and to sabotage Kosovo as an independent state.

The tools available include violence against property - grenades thrown at UN, EU, and Kosovan justice ministry buildings, and the carefully planned and executed burning down of two border and customs posts on 19 February.

Privately, Serb leaders in the north say this is just the beginning.

United Serb front

The UN Mission in Kosovo (UNMIK) is awaiting instructions from the UN secretary general in New York, and from the so-called "Contact Group" - the US, UK, Germany, France, Russia, the European Commission - as well as the new EU mission in Kosovo, the International Civilian Office (ICO).

UNMIK is hesitating. The line from New York is that the UN is "status-neutral" - neither recognising nor opposing an independent Kosovo.

Serbs in the north-west say they have nothing against UNMIK continuing its work there - provided it does nothing to nurture or protect Kosovan institutions.

A united Serb front, made up of hard-line Serb leaders, is trying to dictate policy to the UN.

As in Croatia and Bosnia in the 1990s, the UN is caught on the horns of a dilemma - whether or not to stand up to radical Serb nationalism. The precedents are not good.

New enemy

What is different about Serb nationalism today, compared with the 1990s, is that for the moment its enemy is not the other nations of the Balkans.

The enemy is instead those countries which recognise an independent Kosovo.

The attacks on foreign embassies in Belgrade and on UN property in Kosovo confirm this.

There are several thousand ethnic Albanians and other minorities living among about 40,000 Serbs in northern Kosovo.

Buses still run each day, with a police escort, taking them to work places and schools in the south.

Some also cross by a footbridge over the River Ibar. Despite the growth in tension in the north, there have been no atrocities against them.

The following are points of contention:

Customs posts


Serb leaders say they will not tolerate their continued operation, as the institutions of a sovereign state.

Slobodan Samardzic, the minister for Kosovo in the Serbian government, described their destruction this week by mobs as "legitimate".

Serbian Prime Minister Vojislav Kostunica is not sponsoring paramilitaries today, as the government did during the 1990s, but they are sponsoring violence against UN and Kosovan government property.

Interestingly, Serbian customs posts just across the border were also torched.

Northern Kosovo is a haven for organised crime, with no number plates on cars, and major smuggling operations.

"The aim is to portray Kosovo as a state of criminals," Mr Samardzic says.

The Kosovo Police Service (KPS)


The KPS is 7,200-strong and multi-ethnic. About 10% of its officers are Serbs.

In much of the country, there are still multi-ethnic patrols, but no longer in the north-west. Albanian KPS officers have been withdrawn for safety reasons.

Serb KPS officers are under huge pressure from hard-liners, with threats to their homes and family members.

They remain in uniform, but warn they will quit if forced to take orders from KPS commanders in Pristina. They now only accept orders from UNMIK police.

The court and prison in Mitrovica

The Serbs are demanding that Albanian staff who normally work there should not be allowed to return.

There are daily demonstrations by pre-1999 staff demanding their jobs back.

They say they will only accept UNMIK control, not Pristina control.

The International Civilian Office

The ICO building is close to the main KPS police station in northern Mitrovica. The Serbs say they will not tolerate it.

The International Civilian Representative, Pieter Feith, has advocated a gradual approach to winning over such implacable opposition.

But he has also hinted that Belgrade's progress towards the EU might in future become conditional on how they and the Kosovan Serbs treat the EU mission.

This is the dilemma facing UNMIK - if they stand firm, and call in Nato ground support, they will lose their neutral status and become parties to the conflict.

If they cave in, the Serbs will have achieved the de facto partition of Kosovo, along the line of the Ibar.

If that is then combined with the strengthened operation of parallel Serb institutions in enclaves elsewhere in Kosovo, Kosovan independence would then begin to look very patchy indeed.

If independence is undermined, a violent Albanian response would become more likely.

This may also be the Belgrade government's hope, as this would discredit Pristina's position in the eyes of the international community.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/europe/7260283.stm

Published: 2008/02/23 09:52:00 GMT
 

JCK

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May 11, 2004
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The best part of that show is Fez and Red. Funny to think they originally wanted to cast Chuck Norris as Red, but he had a movie obligation.
I'm a big fan of the show, I watched all the season in a row something like a year ago.

As you said, Red and Fez are what give the show a flavour; sometimes Hyde and Dude as well.

Don't you think that Vinman fits perfectly to replace Red? :D
 

Dostoevsky

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May 27, 2007
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Is this fucking normal?

Serbian gold medalist Milorad Cavic has been banned from further individual events at the European championships for wearing a t-shirt with a political slogan at his victory ceremony, European swimming's governing body LEN said on Friday.

The Serbian swimming federation was fined 7,000 euros ($10,820).

American-based Cavic wore the t-shirt bearing the words "Kosovo is Serbia" in his own language on Wednesday after breaking the European 50 meters butterfly record for the second time in two days to win Serbia's first European swimming title.

Serbia are not due to swim the two remaining men's relays, so he is effectively out of the championships.

LEN said in a statement that its disciplinary panel found "that the inscription on the t-shirt worn by the Serbian athlete Mr Milorad Cavic constitutes a clear political action in violation of the LEN Guidelines for Safety and Security at LEN Events."

The Serbian news agency Tanjug quoted sports minister Snezana Samardzic-Markovic as saying the decision was "scandalous" and "a great injustice".

Erik van Heijningen, chairman of the organization committee for the championships, said the Dutch organizers had alerted LEN to the breach of rules in a report.

Cavic, who was born in Anaheim, California, and lives in Islamorada, Florida, had been due to swim in the 100m freestyle heats on Friday and had the fastest entry time for the 100 butterfly heats on Saturday.
 

Lion

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Jan 24, 2007
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Yes it is. Sports should be free of politics, Religion, and Ethnicity issues. Sports bring people together, hence why these things should not be present.
 

swag

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Sep 23, 2003
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I'm a big fan of the show, I watched all the season in a row something like a year ago.

As you said, Red and Fez are what give the show a flavour; sometimes Hyde and Dude as well.

Don't you think that Vinman fits perfectly to replace Red? :D
Vinman growing up to be Red? That would be funny. :D There are definite parallels.

That the Fez's character made it acceptable on TV to hide in women's closets to stalk them, to smear their underwear with chocolate and candy stains, etc., is groundbreaking television. :)
 

Vinman

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Jul 16, 2002
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I dont watch the show, but from what little I know about it, I think thats a bit of a stretch there guys

might as well say Greg could play the role of Michael Moore in a movie, and Jack could shave his head entirely and play Lenin...or even pee-wee Herman :p
 
Apr 12, 2004
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Is this fucking normal?

Serbian gold medalist Milorad Cavic has been banned from further individual events at the European championships for wearing a t-shirt with a political slogan at his victory ceremony, European swimming's governing body LEN said on Friday.

The Serbian swimming federation was fined 7,000 euros ($10,820).

American-based Cavic wore the t-shirt bearing the words "Kosovo is Serbia" in his own language on Wednesday after breaking the European 50 meters butterfly record for the second time in two days to win Serbia's first European swimming title.

Serbia are not due to swim the two remaining men's relays, so he is effectively out of the championships.

LEN said in a statement that its disciplinary panel found "that the inscription on the t-shirt worn by the Serbian athlete Mr Milorad Cavic constitutes a clear political action in violation of the LEN Guidelines for Safety and Security at LEN Events."

The Serbian news agency Tanjug quoted sports minister Snezana Samardzic-Markovic as saying the decision was "scandalous" and "a great injustice".

Erik van Heijningen, chairman of the organization committee for the championships, said the Dutch organizers had alerted LEN to the breach of rules in a report.

Cavic, who was born in Anaheim, California, and lives in Islamorada, Florida, had been due to swim in the 100m freestyle heats on Friday and had the fastest entry time for the 100 butterfly heats on Saturday.
Exactly the same as John Carlos and Tommie Smith in Mexico, 1968.

They were sent home and banned from any other events in the olympics.

 

Vinman

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ßöмßäяðîëя;1593369 said:
Well, I think your knowing me would have prompted the inevitable facetiousness of my comments.

You know I'm not hatin', I'm just fuckin'.
apology accepted !!:p

How is he racist? There are white people in his congregation.
some pretty stupid white people if you asked me....

it would be like having black people at a KKK rally (and I'm not talking about Dave Chappelle either !!)

listen to a few of his "sermons", then come back and tell me otherwise

if the guy was white, and he was bagging on the country and black people, there would not doubt be a huge shitstorm....you'd see Jesse Jackson come out of the woodwork denouncing him as a white supremicist racist, and Al Sharpton and his 3 ring circus would be a marchin'

gotta love the double standards of this country......

either way, imo, Hillary found a weakness in Barack's armor, and he's done now....
 

Zé Tahir

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Dec 10, 2004
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apology accepted !!:p



some pretty stupid white people if you asked me....

it would be like having black people at a KKK rally (and I'm not talking about Dave Chappelle either !!)



listen to a few of his "sermons", then come back and tell me otherwise

if the guy was white, and he was bagging on the country and black people, there would not doubt be a huge shitstorm....you'd see Jesse Jackson come out of the woodwork denouncing him as a white supremicist racist, and Al Sharpton and his 3 ring circus would be a marchin'

gotta love the double standards of this country......

either way, imo, Hillary found a weakness in Barack's armor, and he's done now....
Well you can't change history; it just happens to be that it was the black people who were enslaved and discriminated against and not the other way around, and it is the rich white people who run the country and not rich black people. The pastor can be Asian and he's still not being racist.

He does have some whack beliefs as Altair said but he's not racist by a long shot.
 

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