World Cup Formations Thread (12 Viewers)
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Well yeah but Kuyt is a hard worker, which for some off reason a lot of people in the North of the country (damn calivinists) seem to appreciate. I don't want to watch some boring dude run across the pitch, I want to see nice football. I'd take Van Persie over Kuyt any day (although I'll admit Van Persie is better on the left than on the right).
Good question, I have the same problem with my own last name so I did thorough research on it.
Official spelling is always with 'ij' (barring a few exceptions). Kuijt, Feijenoord, etc
However, for pronunciation issues, international spelling allows (doesn't oblige) using 'y' instead of 'ij'
So Kuyt, Feyenoord, etc
Official spelling is always with 'ij' (barring a few exceptions). Kuijt, Feijenoord, etc
However, for pronunciation issues, international spelling allows (doesn't oblige) using 'y' instead of 'ij'
So Kuyt, Feyenoord, etc
i dont know abt that position, cuz bringing in nowotony just mixed things up for me.
i mertesacker is in better form and has a good understand with the others ,but the defence needs some experience.. did klinsi bring nowotony just as another option or did he bring to him start ? thing will clear up after the japan game i guess
i would like to see merterasker with metzelder in the back
i mertesacker is in better form and has a good understand with the others ,but the defence needs some experience.. did klinsi bring nowotony just as another option or did he bring to him start ? thing will clear up after the japan game i guess
i would like to see merterasker with metzelder in the back
Martin said:
bleh, I had that Swedish (and Norwegian alike) lack of imagination with respect to [well known] international names. It's why I practically changed my name to Martin, so idiots wouldn't have to scratch their heads at a mutant 'c' in my name. 
My friend's parents came from Yugoslavia and had their children in Sweden. The one I am talking about is called Zdenko, so he had to change his name to Denko due to the same lack of imagination you talked about.
The residents of the Randstad area do have that boasting attitude that appalls the other 8.5 million of the Dutch population. That part of the population has the same attitude you have, with the minor but not unimportant difference that they would refer to it as Randstad arrogance as opposed to Dutch arrogance. That's the superficial side of it.
The deeper motives behind said 'arrogance' are socio-cultural and historical and when examined can be closely linked to a very strange paradox between optimism and calvinist influences. Optimism not shared by the rest of the nation. I could go deeper into that, but I won't.
Finally, that same 'arrogance' is something you will encounter in Italy. If you can't tolerate or appreciate it, you might need to rethink that Erasmus plan.
Also, I'm baffled by how I keep running into that attitude when interacting with Belgians (the Flemish population, anyway). Why the hell would anyone care so much about another nation that it actively turns into hatred? Even the Dutch-German rivalry doesn't have nearly the same dimensions.
The deeper motives behind said 'arrogance' are socio-cultural and historical and when examined can be closely linked to a very strange paradox between optimism and calvinist influences. Optimism not shared by the rest of the nation. I could go deeper into that, but I won't.
Finally, that same 'arrogance' is something you will encounter in Italy. If you can't tolerate or appreciate it, you might need to rethink that Erasmus plan.
Also, I'm baffled by how I keep running into that attitude when interacting with Belgians (the Flemish population, anyway). Why the hell would anyone care so much about another nation that it actively turns into hatred? Even the Dutch-German rivalry doesn't have nearly the same dimensions.
Oh no, I'm actually very fond of Italian arrogance 
. To us, Flemish, "Randstad arrogance" is what I would call "Zlatan arrogance". Not only unjustified, but also very unstylish and even clumsy.
Of course there are deeper motives behind it, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. Besides this doesn't mean I can't like Dutch people. It's also not the fact that the Dutch nation would be proud if Holland were to win the WC, it's that annoying "party attitude" some Dutch have. Somehow painting the town orange is annoying to me while the Spanish, Italian and Brazilian can have whatever festa they want.
This attitude is even strengthened by your players if I might add, Kluivert, Seedorf, Davids (I actually do like him) and Van Nistelrooij haven't aided your case.
I wouldn't know if that part about active hatred is actually true. To me the 29th of June was sweet because it was an historical Italian victory, and yes, also because the Dutch were so confident to win. I would probably have had just as much fun had it been England or Germany though.
. To us, Flemish, "Randstad arrogance" is what I would call "Zlatan arrogance". Not only unjustified, but also very unstylish and even clumsy. Of course there are deeper motives behind it, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. Besides this doesn't mean I can't like Dutch people. It's also not the fact that the Dutch nation would be proud if Holland were to win the WC, it's that annoying "party attitude" some Dutch have. Somehow painting the town orange is annoying to me while the Spanish, Italian and Brazilian can have whatever festa they want
. This attitude is even strengthened by your players if I might add, Kluivert, Seedorf, Davids (I actually do like him) and Van Nistelrooij haven't aided your case.
I wouldn't know if that part about active hatred is actually true. To me the 29th of June was sweet because it was an historical Italian victory, and yes, also because the Dutch were so confident to win. I would probably have had just as much fun had it been England or Germany though.