Without Religion, would homosexuals be more accepted? (9 Viewers)

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Zé Tahir said:
You conveniently chose to ignore the latter part of my post and my other post in here.

The only difference between heterosexuals, homosexuals, necrophiliacs, and pedophiles is that heterosexuals and homosexuals have the convenience of being 'themselves' because they can find other consenting adults. There is no medical proof (yet) that people are born one way or another. The only issue with pedophiles and necrophiliacs is that they desire something immoral and illegal in nearly all societies, however if these people could control their desires then why not accept them into society? Why should they continue to be stigmatized? After all they might be born that way if you argue that homosexuals and heterosexuals are.

Kleptomaniacs are a medically recognized group and so long as their not stealing shit (which is considered wrong and illegal everywhere) no one hates them. Why hate on 'passive' if you will, pedophiles and necrophiliacs then?
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I think you make a good point.

I wouldn't say there is any good reason to hate on pedophiles and necrophiliacs if they did not harm other people in society. And if they were born that way I think it's even admirable that they prevent themselves from fulfilling their desires.
 
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The reason we cannot accept paedophiles into society (although it is a problem that has been blown out of proportion to a ridiculous extent) is because sexual relations require consent from both parties otherwise it is rape. A child cannot consent to a sexual relationship because they do not have the mental or physical maturity to either understand or partake in the activities. If the person claims to be able to control their 'nature' then it isn't a problem untill they are deemed a threat to someone that cannot consent. There are paedophiles that live in society and never have any intention of part taking in sexual relations with a minor and no one would ever know there were such urges.
 
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ja5per said:
The reason we cannot accept paedophiles into society (although it is a problem that has been blown out of proportion to a ridiculous extent) is because sexual relations require consent from both parties otherwise it is rape. A child cannot consent to a sexual relationship because they do not have the mental or physical maturity to either understand or partake in the activities. If the person claims to be able to control their 'nature' then it isn't a problem untill they are deemed a threat to someone that cannot consent. There are paedophiles that live in society and never have any intention of part taking in sexual relations with a minor and no one would ever know there were such urges.
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Very well said :tup:
 
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Pretty much the same reason we can't accept sociopathic murderers that kill people even though it is their nature and they don't really have control over their impulses. The basis is pretty much "which of these groups is a physical danger to society".
 
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Aaron said:
Pretty much the same reason we can't accept sociopathic murderers that kill people even though it is their nature and they don't really have control over their impulses. The basis is pretty much "which of these groups is a physical danger to society".
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lets be honest lets all focus our attention to the real physical danger to society,AHKKKmedios and his Anal Cannon,thsi man and his cavernous anus poses a threat to almost the whole eastern seaboard and he is well within range of almost the whole of northern Europe. for too long this man has held power over us,threats of flying faeces over Sweeden,Britain,Holland and his alliance with the French (who surrendered after receiving an envelope of weapons grade crap) have had us all terrified....if the UN refuse to react,i say we UNITE....lets stand against this tyranny...lets force Akmedios back into the cesspool from which he emerged...
 
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    Bozi said:
    lets be honest lets all focus our attention to the real physical danger to society,AHKKKmedios and his Anal Cannon,thsi man and his cavernous anus poses a threat to almost the whole eastern seaboard and he is well within range of almost the whole of northern Europe. for too long this man has held power over us,threats of flying faeces over Sweeden,Britain,Holland and his alliance with the French (who surrendered after receiving an envelope of weapons grade crap) have had us all terrified....if the UN refuse to react,i say we UNITE....lets stand against this tyranny...lets force Akmedios back into the cesspool from which he emerged...
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    Agreed. Akkkhmedios once wiped out an entire brigade of IDF soldiers with his cannon.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6498835.stm
     
    Bozi

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    though it seems my intel was wrong,it appears that the French surrendered when someone farted on a train
     
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    I'm gonna go out for beers tonight with one of my gay friends. I wanna ask him the stuff we've debated here but I'm not sure how he'll react
     
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    Ask him if he's into really gay Jordanians who like Juve, because he could find one here.
     
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