Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2014-15) (81 Viewers)

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    10 of these players here(Gigi, Licht, Barza, Ciello, Asa, Paul, Arturo, Pirlo, Tevez, Nando) can still start for us again next year so we don't need 2 big investments. Get 2 top players the year after to prepare the Pirlo departure a year in advance and a CB or top forward.

    1 top next season + bench warmers
    2 top the year after...

    Then win the CL and sell whoever you want and make a new team to win again.
     

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    Floro Fckin' Flores
    May 16, 2010
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    It's all good and it works (in Serie A) but with the 352 there's one huge downside - the moment you start defending is not where it should have been in the first place. With the 352 there's too many defensive players and whole team basically falls back leaving too much space (mainly because there's only one player on each wing). In formations like 4231/442/433 you actually start to defend more higher up the pitch which is what we lack currently. This is very important in CL. Many don't see that because it's normal these days but this Juve don't have it. Tevez and Llorente alone can't defend effectively if not backed up by the others.
    We're not packed infront of our own box all the time. when we haven't gotten a lead or especially chasing the game, you see the defensive line higher up. We're more than capable of pressuring the opposition, when we choose to, with our current setup. we didn't have problem retaining the ball against Copenhagen or Gala. unless we believe the opponents wingers are too much to handle ,we don't change our play and apparently we have a completely different approach for those games.
    There's huge difference in between our success in Serie A and CL. I think it's the quality of the players not the formation that makes this side so successful in Italy.
    every single week needs it's own special preparation, you need to analyze the strongest points and weak areas of each opponent as to where and when hit them, no matter their quality. we can not just play our game and expect maximum points week in week out. not everything will work just because you have a strong team without the right adjustments.
     

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    We're not packed infront of our own box all the time. when we haven't gotten a lead or especially chasing the game, you see the defensive line higher up. We're more than capable of pressuring the opposition, when we choose to, with our current setup. we didn't have problem retaining the ball against Copenhagen or Gala. unless we believe the opponents wingers are too much to handle ,we don't change our play and apparently we have a completely different approach for those games.

    every single week needs it's own special preparation, you need to analyze the strongest points and weak areas of each opponent as to where and when hit them, no matter their quality. we can not just play our game and expect maximum points week in week out. not everything will work just because you have a strong team without the right adjustments.

    :tup: top post as always
     

    rakib567

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    Apr 27, 2013
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    We're not packed infront of our own box all the time. when we haven't gotten a lead or especially chasing the game, you see the defensive line higher up. We're more than capable of pressuring the opposition, when we choose to, with our current setup. we didn't have problem retaining the ball against Copenhagen or Gala. unless we believe the opponents wingers are too much to handle ,we don't change our play and apparently we have a completely different approach for those games.

    every single week needs it's own special preparation, you need to analyze the strongest points and weak areas of each opponent as to where and when hit them, no matter their quality. we can not just play our game and expect maximum points week in week out. not everything will work just because you have a strong team without the right adjustments.
    you only see the defensive like very high when we have control over the game. this will not happen in the champions league because teams we will press you and they will retain possession as well. This is the reason why in serie A we dominate even using a 352 but in Europe where most teams give their 100%, we lack. I mean 1 win 2 losses and 3 draws is not good enough for any team. especially juventus; 433 is the move forward and with the likes of vidal and pogba in midfield the quality of the winger does not have to be world class.
     

    Fint

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    Aug 13, 2010
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    rakib, if I had a penny for every time you've mentioned the 433, I could hire a PI to track you down, book a first class flight to the nearest airport in your local, put myself up in a 4-star hotel (5-star hotels are too pretentious for my liking), then make my way to your residence and rip the ''3'' and ''4'' keys from your laptop and then return home but not before making myself a sandwich in your kitchen.
     

    rakib567

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    Apr 27, 2013
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    rakib, if I had a penny for every time you've mentioned the 433, I could hire a PI to track you down, book a first class flight to the nearest airport in your local, put myself up in a 4-star hotel (5-star hotels are too pretentious for my liking), then make my way to your residence and rip the ''3'' and ''4'' keys from your laptop and then return home but not before making myself a sandwich in your kitchen.
     
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