Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2013-14) (10 Viewers)

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Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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what do you think?
Such formation only works when you have high quality diffrencemakers on the bench, cause the workload is quite extreme on the players.

Ribery doesnt nearly puts that work in the league. else he would play like half the games.
Kroos/muller on the right worked harder, but not THAT much, apart from like 3 games in the cl
Robben, had 2 games where he worked like that.

Its like our 4-3-3 from last season. We had MUCH better stamina players then ribery and robben, yet we severely ran out of steam halfway the season, despite beeing in just 1 serious competition (we fielded a b team in the coppa).
Just to give you an idea, this is exactly what makes bayern so constand the past years. If you got a quality bench, you can play a more taxing playstyle cause you have the subs to back up the starters without losing quality.

We kinda do it to currently. Our quality on the bench doesnt go deeper then caceres and pogba. any other player means a significant quality drop. Hence, if vucinic isnt having his day, you know its gonna be a freaking grind and vidal bails us out or we draw/lose
 

Catenaccio

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Jul 15, 2002
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Exchanging Melo + 5m cash for Tevez is a no brainer if they accept because that would put Melo's valuation at 6-7m.

And if it is true that Tottenam will sign Vucinic for close to 20m (which I don't believe), we could still get both Higuain and Jovetic. Imagine a formation:

-----------------Buffon-------------------

Lichsteiner---Barzagli---Bonucci----Chiellini

--------Vidal----Pirlo/Pogba/march--------

---Diamanti------Jovetic--------Tevez----

-----------------Higuain------------------

Now that would be FAP worthy.

IN: (Higuain 25m); LLorente (free); Tevez (5m + Melo); Jovetic (7m + Quags + 50% of Marrone); Diamanti 7m
ALSO OUT: Matri (10m?); Giovinco (12m?); Vucinic (18m?); Padoin & Giaccherini (5m?)

Net = 0

(Of course, wages would be a bitch)
 
May 30, 2013
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I believe Llorente is not coming to Juventus to be Conte's #1 striker who plays whenever possible. Juventus signed him to get different striker-option. In the end he is technically gifted target player, something what Conte was looking for in Marco Borriello and Nicklas Bendtner. Llorente is better than these two combined and came for free so it was a really good and smart deal.

Conte also wants fox_in_the_box -type striker and another striker who can score and create changes for others. I hope Higuain and Jovetic both end up to Juventus. Alternative for Jovetic is Tevez. If someone is ready to buy Vucinic for 15-20 millions he needs to go and fund the transfer of Jovetic and Higuain. Also Matri or Quagliarella needs to go.

Higuain
Jovetic
Llorente
Giovinco
Quagliarella / Matri / Vucinic
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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Exchanging Melo + 5m cash for Tevez is a no brainer if they accept because that would put Melo's valuation at 6-7m.

And if it is true that Tottenam will sign Vucinic for close to 20m (which I don't believe), we could still get both Higuain and Jovetic. Imagine a formation:

-----------------Buffon-------------------

Lichsteiner---Barzagli---Bonucci----Chiellini

--------Vidal----Pirlo/Pogba/march--------

---Diamanti------Jovetic--------Tevez----

-----------------Higuain------------------

Now that would be FAP worthy.

IN: (Higuain 25m); LLorente (free); Tevez (5m + Melo); Jovetic (7m + Quags + 50% of Marrone); Diamanti 7m
ALSO OUT: Matri (10m?); Giovinco (12m?); Vucinic (18m?); Padoin & Giaccherini (5m?)

Net = 0

(Of course, wages would be a bitch)
well

jovetic will be ~15-18mil+players
Tevez will be quite a bit more then that, and massive wages. like 8k
nobody wants giovinco
Nobody is paying 18 mil for vucinic even if its a fair valuation
we arent selling pado and giac

In : 25 + 0 + 18 + 7 = 50
OUT : 10

Net : 40

If we sell vucinic, we might try for tevez, but with his wages ? unlikely.

Also, in your fantasy team, Higuain instead of diamanti, Llorente as striker. Higuain playing closer to Llorente, and licht pushing up a bit more. Its more of a 4-3-3 then a 4-2-3-1 really.
 

adRHCP

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Nov 7, 2012
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i think that the best thing to do is to stick with a 3-5-2 but make sure that the 2 wingers (lic and asamoah) make sure that they do their defending job as well as attacking just like ribery and robben did in the champions league. that was the reason why bayern was so good defensively. don't get me wrong, our defence is probably the best in europe but additional support will certain help to reduce penetration. so we use a 3-5-2 formation which will be transformed into a 5-3-2 when lic and asa get back to support defence.

for example:


Normal formation:

Buffon

Barzagli bonucci chiellini

lichtsteiner vidal pirlo marchisio asamoah

llorente higuain​

Defensive formation

Buffon

lichtsteiner Barzagli bonucci chiellini asamoah

vidal pirlo marchisio

llorente higuain​


This is what Bayern did:

Normal formation

Neuer

Lahm Boateng dante alaba

Schweinste martinez

ribery muller robben

Mandzukic​

defensive formation

Neuer

ribery Lahm Boateng dante alaba robben

Schweinste martinez

muller

Mandzukic​

You can see that the wingers are used for defensive work so bayern will have a 6 man defence and similarly juve will have a 5 man defence which is enough to defend any team!


Eitherways if we want to use a 4-2-3-1 we would have to get attacking winger/strikers but llorente, higuain and jovetic are all central fordwards which makes our this formation unsuitable for us.

what do you think?
So deep.

10/10 will send to Conte.
 
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