Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2013-14) (13 Viewers)

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Condoms? Not sure. I think Conte would prefer all natural

 

[Bianconero81]

Exchanging Melo + 5m cash for Tevez is a no brainer if they accept because that would put Melo's valuation at 6-7m.

And if it is true that Tottenam will sign Vucinic for close to 20m (which I don't believe), we could still get both Higuain and Jovetic. Imagine a formation:

-----------------Buffon-------------------

Lichsteiner---Barzagli---Bonucci----Chiellini

--------Vidal----Pirlo/Pogba/march--------

---Diamanti------Jovetic--------Tevez----

-----------------Higuain------------------

Now that would be FAP worthy.

IN: (Higuain 25m); LLorente (free); Tevez (5m + Melo); Jovetic (7m + Quags + 50% of Marrone); Diamanti 7m
ALSO OUT: Matri (10m?); Giovinco (12m?); Vucinic (18m?); Padoin & Giaccherini (5m?)

Net = 0

(Of course, wages would be a bitch)

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@Interdestroyer I'd put Paul George instead of Lebron, and substitute the cow for a buffalo

 

[Nenz]

Coentrao would be so fucking sick he is a beast. Would be perfect for us. I don't see us signing a LW though.

 

[Zacheryah]

To be honest, I would be tempted to go for Tevez over Higuain. Jovetic-Tevez would be a great mix

How is that so ?

Both Tevez and Jovetic are players that want to run with the ball. have it all the time, and be creative with it.
Higuain is a player that runs best without the ball, looking for space behind defenders, receiving it as late as possible, not with the goal to distribute it, but to do a quick exchange with nearby player, or burst past defender and shoot.

If anything, Tevez and Jovetic would have by far the best mix when combined with Higuain.

It wont offcourse be 'Tuz mandatory fancy and flair, but will be goddamn effective.

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Coentrao would be so fucking sick he is a beast. Would be perfect for us. I don't see us signing a LW though.

Why would we sign a LWb when the one we put there, asamoah, was a keyplayer for us, recognised in many "serie a team of the years" + ivanovic has nightmares of him still ? Especially if we absolutely lack this keyplayer in the attacking department, bar Llorente ?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

asamoah was a stop gap, we cant seriously see him as a valid solution for LWB in europe

 

[Nenz]

Why would we sign a LWb when the one we put there, asamoah, was a keyplayer for us, recognised in many "serie a team of the years" + ivanovic has nightmares of him still ? Especially if we absolutely lack this keyplayer in the attacking department, bar Llorente ?

That's why I said I don't think we'll sign one. Asamoah is a pretty poor attacking wing back though and it can make us look pretty one dimensional. Coentrao is the exact type of player we need there.

 

[Zacheryah]

asamoah was a stop gap, we cant seriously see him as a valid solution for LWB in europe

He was a keyplayer and defensive fantastic. We can mold him into a nonbackstabbing version of zambrotta

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That's why I said I don't think we'll sign one. Asamoah is a pretty poor attacking wing back though and it can make us look pretty one dimensional. Coentrao is the exact type of player we need there.

not true, attacking isnt everything.

If we wanted to be "attacking" we could just field 4-3-3 right ? yet we dont. Its because the organisation and tactical plan has to be there.

Asamoah offers speed on the flank, but doesnt cross himself, he however lays it off the the cm, or gets a corner out of the defender. But defensively, he rapes the opposing winger with ease.

Asamoah is great, just like licht is great, and the creativity just has to come from the other FIVE players. namely the 3 cm's and the forwards. thats okay.

classic 4-4-2 had 2 forward and 2 wingers, with the cm's doing nothing offensive, and the fullbacks beeing fullbacks.

 

[Tommy]

asamoah was a stop gap, we cant seriously see him as a valid solution for LWB in europe

 

[Zacheryah]

Why dont we replace our central defenders with offensively good central defenders ? for europe !

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asamoah was a stop gap, we cant seriously see him as a valid solution for LWB in europe

Ivanovic is such bad player indeed. Raped so hard by Asamoah on that flank, he tought he was an underaged teenager in New Delhi

 

[Nenz]

He was a keyplayer and defensive fantastic. We can mold him into a nonbackstabbing version of zambrotta

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not true, attacking isnt everything.

If we wanted to be "attacking" we could just field 4-3-3 right ? yet we dont. Its because the organisation and tactical plan has to be there.

Asamoah offers speed on the flank, but doesnt cross himself, he however lays it off the the cm, or gets a corner out of the defender. But defensively, he $#@!s the opposing winger with ease.

Asamoah is great, just like licht is great, and the creativity just has to come from the other FIVE players. namely the 3 cm's and the forwards. thats okay.

classic 4-4-2 had 2 forward and 2 wingers, with the cm's doing nothing offensive, and the fullbacks beeing fullbacks.

If you want to win the champions league, you can't have wingers that only 'win corners and play it off to the center mid. A player like Coentrao or Isla in his day at Udinese is capable in attack and defense. More attacking options means less predictability.

 

[Tommy]

 

[Nenz]

Why dont we replace our central defenders with offensively good central defenders ? for europe !

I don't think you're really understanding what a good left wing back should contribute to a team.

 

[Zacheryah]

If you want to win the champions league, you can't have wingers that only 'win corners and play it off to the center mid. A player like Coentrao or Isla in his day at Udinese is capable in attack and defense. More attacking options means less predictability.

In the glory days of serie a, playing a 2 strikers and an attacking midfielder, was overkill. to little tracking back they called it. yet we were winning in europe.

One doesnt neccecary needs to have offensive wingbacks. WINGBACKS. you people are threating them like they were offensive wingers. they are not, they are wingbacks.

they must be defensively very good, fast, domminate their flank, and if they can cross, its an added bonus.

asamoah had his share of assists, and it was just his first year on the flank. he was excellent at locking down opponent wingers. thats good.

3 cm's and 2 attackers can be more offensive because of them.

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I don't think you're really understanding what a good left wing back should contribute to a team.

I dont think you are really understanding that a good left wing back perfectly be defensively good, and doesnt neccecarely need an offense.


why dont we remove marchiso, replace him with hernanes ? for creativity.

why dont we sell bonucci, field a centreback thats excellent at deadball situations

you get the idea

 

[GordoDeCentral]

while he started well, asamoah was very frustrating to watch for much of the season, while defensively sound he offers very little going forward. Hed be much more valuable if played in his preferred position with pirlo slowing down.

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non-sense why else would you play a wingback if not to capitalize on his runs offensively

 

[Nenz]

In the glory days of serie a, playing a 2 strikers and an attacking midfielder, was overkill. to little tracking back they called it. yet we were winning in europe.

One doesnt neccecary needs to have offensive wingbacks. WINGBACKS. you people are threating them like they were offensive wingers. they are not, they are wingbacks.

they must be defensively very good, fast, domminate their flank, and if they can cross, its an added bonus.

asamoah had his share of assists, and it was just his first year on the flank. he was excellent at locking down opponent wingers. thats good.

3 cm's and 2 attackers can be more offensive because of them.

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I dont think you are really understanding that a good left wing back perfectly be defensively good, and doesnt neccecarely need an offense.


why dont we remove marchiso, replace him with hernanes ? for creativity.

why dont we sell bonucci, field a centreback thats excellent at deadball situations

you get the idea

Yes but a players like Coentrao are as capable defensively as they are offensively. You don't HAVE to buy any sort of player do you? But you want the best players for the best positions to make the best team possible and Coentrao would be a huge upgrade over Asamoah.

Why don't we replace Marchisio with Hernanes?? I definitely would if I could. That's how improving a squad in a mercato works. And comparing buying a player for creativity to buying a player for something no one would buy a player for (dead ball situations) is a pretty idiotic way to argue something.

 

[Zacheryah]

You guys need to realise the way we play. Domminate opponents. You need to make choises.

There are less then 5 rightwing players, that arent fully domminated by asamoah from the start till the end of the game. licht-vidal doing simular heroics on the right flank usually.

ESPECIALLY in europe, why the fuck do we need offensive wingers, when the one we got, shuts down the opponent ? in head to head it doesnt matter that you could cross 50 good crosses against hello kitty teams. In this game, you are doing jack shit. and thats what matters.

THIS YEAR, we are working on the frontline and the frontline alone
NEXT YEAR, we are working on Pirlo, and Barzagli.

then, if asamoah isnt the best left flank on the serie a for the third season running, we could perhaps consider the lwb. But as it stands, its rocksolid

 

[Nenz]

You guys need to realise the way we play. Domminate opponents. You need to make choises.

There are less then 5 rightwing players, that arent fully domminated by asamoah from the start till the end of the game. licht-vidal doing simular heroics on the right flank usually.

ESPECIALLY in europe, why the $#@! do we need offensive wingers, when the one we got, shuts down the opponent ? in head to head it doesnt matter that you could cross 50 good crosses against hello kitty teams. In this game, you are doing jack $#@!. and thats what matters.

THIS YEAR, we are working on the frontline and the frontline alone
NEXT YEAR, we are working on Pirlo, and Barzagli.

then, if asamoah isnt the best left flank on the serie a for the third season running, we could perhaps consider the lwb. But as it stands, its rocksolid

Have you seen Coentrao play? Why wouldn't you want a winger who can both shut down an opponent and attack? Yes they do exist.

 

[Zacheryah]

Yes but a players like Coentrao are as capable defensively as they are offensively. You don't HAVE to buy any sort of player do you? But you want the best players for the best positions to make the best team possible and Coentrao would be a huge upgrade over Asamoah.

Why don't we replace Marchisio with Hernanes?? I definitely would if I could. That's how improving a squad in a mercato works.

You dont understand juventus, you are the classic tuz example of "flair and fancy"

Contrao is very good offensively, perhaps the best in that regard on his flank. but defensively he is significantly less then asamoah. He is not a huge upgrade cause quite frankly, in a head to head, asamoah would shot contrao down, the entire game.

Marchisio replaced by hernanes, while fielding pirlo, is once again you not understanding juventus.

Offcourse we arent doing that, it would unbalance the team. We need vidal and marchisio or pirlo to do that defensive work, disrupting opponents and crippeling their build up.

put hernanes in the team and you fuck it up. and marchisio is so very important for this juventus. people that dont see it are tactically the level of a toddler.

good night.

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Why wouldn't you want a winger who can both shut down an opponent and attack? Yes they do exist.

Because we have asamoah, who would shut such winger down.

this is italy bro, first comes the organisation, then the offense. allways has been.