Wishlist and General Juve mercato talk (2012-13) (20 Viewers)

[Zacheryah]

Everyone is currently laughing at milan

with good reason


However, if allegri finds out how to use his Fast offensive players in a wide 4-2-3-1 with pazzini as their targetman, he'll score a goddamn high amouth of goals.


But i trust in the incompetence of allegri, and the swiss cheese their defence has become now the leader left

---------- Post added 28.08.2012 at 03:37 ----------

I tell you one thing......Juve have been involved in countless signings of young midfielders. If the board is not comfortable in spending big on a striker then perhaps we should invest in a portfolio of young strikers to see which one comes good. Bonatini and Boakye are 2 names, but perhaps we should look in south america

Juve will never look for unproven south american youngsters, and i also think we did very well in every department for young prospects.

They still should have allowed marotta the funds for Jovetic...

...unless the only real aim is direct qualification for CL, and no current ambition in CL

I could understand from financial point of view. as a supporter it saddens me tho

 

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[napoleonic]

Oh, so you know the maximum figure marotte is allowed on a single player from our board ?

sooner or later the board will and already is by the looks of it now, getting more and more desperate so a limit will be then pointless at that time...

so 18m for isla + 11m for gio + 7.5m for giach, we can add more pointless signing like padoin, giabbandini or whatever next vieri we just bought, them will easily total 40m+ with their wages surely total up to 5m/y or even more? don't forget we gave pogba and buoy 1m/y wage each or something like that

so 40m and 7m/y spent on averages/luxuries/pointless ones, now add another 15-20m we are still willing to spend and another 4-6m/y wage for that signing... wow?!

I wanna bet suarez/jojo would've come with that money, heck we could've bought hazard/falcao with it.

 

[dann10]

these are going to be the slowest 3 days ever

 

[Ibrahimovic9]

Oscar Cardozo is a beast. Too bad he is 29 already. He would do great here. He can finish with the best of them. 15 million would be a good deal.

 

[Salvatore]

I know it's a crappy source,

I love this.


 

[Bianconero81]

Blame the transfer market for failing to net a striker?

I love you Zach; you really crack me up.

Assume for a second I am your boss. I set targets for you, and you fail to achieve them. What should I do then?

The purchase of a CF is a target; if Marotta fails in acquiring one (provided the board have given him sufficient funds to accomplish his target and a list of names he can/should approach), then he has failed in his objectives. Plain and simple.

I like how you adopt the "Egyptian Methodology" of excuses

 

[Zacheryah]

Blame the transfer market for failing to net a striker?

I love you Zach; you really crack me up.

Assume for a second I am your boss. I set targets for you, and you fail to achieve them. What should I do then?

The purchase of a CF is a target; if Marotta fails in acquiring one (provided the board have given him sufficient funds to accomplish his target and a list of names he can/should approach), then he has failed in his objectives. Plain and simple.

I like how you adopt the "Egyptian Methodology" of excuses

what ST at what point should he have bought for what fee ?

i dont recall any team at any time accepting 20mil+ players
and we offered that plenty of time

 

[Cirillo]

I should point out that I would still consider not getting in a good CF as something of a black mark against Marotta.

I just won't be demanding that he be sacked, like plenty of people will.

We've had a decent mercatto so far but he has failed (at this stage) in securing us a top striker. As it is his job to bring in players, and he has failed to achieve his no 1 target, then he has failed. Not worth sacking but worth noting...

 

[Bianconero81]

It's his job, and not mine to find out that information and get us that striker.

Every year, we find apologists coming up with excuses as to why he didn't manage to do this, or manage to accomplish that. Last year, it was we couldn't compete as we had no CL and were coming off a 7'th place finish in Serie A. We had a novice coach, were an unknown entity, and seemed like an unattractive proposition. Fair enough. It was always going to be hard to convince a top level player to join us.

However, this summer we are the undefeated champions, have a buzzing new stadium (teams and players have seen and felt the atmosphere it generates), and are back in the CL. There should be no excuses.

Jovetic, Llorente, and Dzeko all fall within the 25-30 million price range (hardly cheap, but that's the price you gotta pay and one which the market dictates). Marotta should be pushing the board more (provided they aren't offering him the required amount, and he's not the one penny pinching) as that is the one glaring weakness we have, even more so than LB/LWB (thanks to DC, and the emergence of Asamoah as an asset in that position).

The bottom line is, adding 5-8 million Euros to your budget is pittance to a club of Juve's size and stature. At least, I sincerely hope it is

 

[Tommy]

Should've got Pazzini. :depressed

 

[Salvo]

Il presidente della Lazio: «Gli ho offerto un contratto tre volte superiore al suo ma lui vuole Inter, Milan o i bianconeri»

Diakite was offered a contract worth 3 times what his current one is but he wants Inter, Milan or Juventus.

 

[LiquidPLP]

My feeling is that we cannot make anything more in Llorente's case. We want him, he wants us, we offer reasonable price but not for their management. Marotta should push harder for JoJo and especially Dzeko who's not happy at City. If we can't get a decent/classy striker we better don't buy anyone and don't waste money on medicore short-time investments. Better wait until January and then try again for Dzeko or Llorente.

 

[Ahmed]

Llorente will join Juve, it's just part of the waiting game till the close of the transfer window.

 

[napoleonic]

anyone know how much will llorente/dzeko earn at juve? I think llorente acquisition will save juve at least 10m total (+ contracts) compared to dzeko... that is if dzeko willing to take a significant reduction in his earnings...

now the question is, is dzeko that much better than llorente?

 

[Ahmed]

no he isn't.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

This place is going to be fantastic if Juve don't sign a striker or make what was obviously a panic buy.

What do you mean "going to be"?

The bottom line is, adding 5-8 million Euros to your budget is pittance to a club of Juve's size and stature. At least, I sincerely hope it is

No, the bottom line is that adding 5-8 million € to your budget is not going to cut, if you take salaries into account. You'd be talking about a number closer to 50 million.

Which, I'm quite certain we CAN spend. But we just won't. And for good reason.


Look at how the entire club is set up in terms of wages etc. Look at Buffon's contract, Ale's last season, players signed these past 2 years compared to players signed the years before, and so on and so forth.

Does anyone honestly think we're going to risk our entire concept for one player? Hell, does anyone even think that could be a good idea? (Don't answer this, I know there's a shitload of people who think it's the best idea ever.)

 

[Xperd]

hmm backing to posting news again..

Juventus, the alternative for the attack Oscar Cardozo

As reported by La Gazzetta dello Sport after considering the difficulties in arriving at Fernando Llorente, Juventus could tack on Oscar Cardozo, 29 year-old Paraguayan national in force at Benfica. The Portuguese club asks about 15 million, Juventus will offer 8. The feeling is that halfway the deal can be closed, with a total cost of 11 million euros.

Seems like a pretty good deal if closed for €11m..What do you guys reckon ?

 

[Bianconero81]

Underwhelming and disappointing.

---------- Post added 28.08.2012 at 14:39 ----------

What do you mean "going to be"?




No, the bottom line is that adding 5-8 million € to your budget is not going to cut, if you take salaries into account. You'd be talking about a number closer to 50 million.

Which, I'm quite certain we CAN spend. But we just won't. And for good reason.


Look at how the entire club is set up in terms of wages etc. Look at Buffon's contract, Ale's last season, players signed these past 2 years compared to players signed the years before, and so on and so forth.

Does anyone honestly think we're going to risk our entire concept for one player? Hell, does anyone even think that could be a good idea? (Don't answer this, I know there's a shitload of people who think it's the best idea ever.)

Jovetic and Cavani wouldn't command such high wages. I agree that wages might have priced us out of a move for RVP (and rightly so), but I still believe that we could've nabbed Cavani/Jovetic for a reasonable fee (slightly overpaid perhaps), and offered them wages in line with the club's wage structure and policy.

 

[napoleonic]

there goes the top striker promise... we are embarrassing ourselves IMO... better than borriello or pellissier perhaps, but not sure it's better than overpaying for destro or pazzini or even damiao

29 years old, relatively unknown at the highest stage, unproven in serie a...

<10m is preferrable...

 

[Xperd]

for ~€11-12m for a quality striker with a proven record and who has done well in the Champions league,we're not doing too bad for ourselves..

Benfica were asking €35m for him a few seasons ago.