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Bianconero81

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Jan 26, 2009
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Rolando and Sneijder would be two meaningless and worthless acquisitions. They won't do shit for us in the CL, and would barely assist (if at all) in our Scudetto push.

However, I am sure a few members will defend such acquisitions should they transpire, regurgitating the same BS a la Conte with his 7th place and 100 Euro speeches.
 

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GordoDeCentral

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He said he won't renew period, not at this moment.

“No voy con la idea de firmar una extension porque no es lo que siento, pero si voy a respetar el contrato. Mi idea es cumplir el contrato como lo dije y como todos saben, lo dije desde el primer momento que llegué a la Juve. Me queda un año y medio. Es complicado salir cuando uno está jugando bien a este nivel. Es difícil, pero bueno. Hay que ir tranquilo y disfrutar. No pienso en volverme loco con la idea de volver”


And here he makes it clear. And as someone pointed above it's no surprise really. We all knew his wish was to play for Boca again.

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Jul 20, 2012
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He said he won't renew period, not at this moment.

“No voy con la idea de firmar una extension porque no es lo que siento, pero si voy a respetar el contrato. Mi idea es $#@!plir el contrato como lo dije y como todos saben, lo dije desde el primer momento que llegué a la Juve. Me queda un año y medio. Es complicado salir cuando uno está jugando bien a este nivel. Es difícil, pero bueno. Hay que ir tranquilo y disfrutar. No pienso en volverme loco con la idea de volver”


And here he makes it clear. And as someone pointed above it's no surprise really. We all knew his wish was to play for Boca again.
Okay I think we all knew his intentions when he stated it. But by him saying he doesn't want to renew now, clearly shows that he wants to think his future over. Obviously it will be a loss but we knew he would leave so.
 

CrimsonianKing

Count Mbangula
Jan 16, 2013
27,328
The question is who follows the Turkish League here? How's Sneijder doing lately?

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Based on stats, not so good. He's got more yellow cards than assists. This transfer will probably turn out to be a big mistake...
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
69,035
:agree:

The van Persie offer was embarrassing too, but shit was hilarious :lol:
Just awaiting the day marotta goes in with an offer for ronaldo with a loan with option to buy

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The question is who follows the Turkish League here? How's Sneijder doing lately?

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Based on stats, not so good. He's got more yellow cards than assists. This transfer will probably turn out to be a big mistake...
fuck sneijder, give Coman a proper run out instead save money on fees and wages to actually buy players who will improve this team
 

CrimsonianKing

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Jan 16, 2013
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Just awaiting the day marotta goes in with an offer for ronaldo with a loan with option to buy

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fuck sneijder, give Coman a proper run out instead save money on fees and wages to actually buy players who will improve this team
It doesn't work that way in real life. I'm sure if he was capable of doing it Allegri would have seen it.

But yes, it's time we stop buying shit for the sake of buying.
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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These kind of signings(Rolando and Sneijder) are a case of being blinded by Serie A success.

Meanwhile, the struggle in europe is gonna continue.

Tevez will be leaving at the end of the next season and the upcoming summer will probably be the best time to make a slow and smooth transition to 433.

Signing one Sneijder would ruin the plan.To make things worse he's totally washed up,nowhere near the best around which'd makr this signing look even more ridiculous.

Either we must be really broke or its just incompetence in general.
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,177
It seems so. I realize January isn't the best time to acquire players (too much shit floating around, overpriced crap, or both), but if we can't improve the squad to compete in the CL, then these investments a la Rolando and Sneijder are needless to say the least. We can win Serie A without them, and we most definitely won't do anything extra in Europe with them on the roster.
 

frzl

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Apr 15, 2006
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happy new year peasants!


what´s all this whining about rolando? imo it´s REALLY obvious that it´s just a safety first signing.
half of our CBs have been out for several months and nobodys knows when they will return and what condition they will be in.
and if anything goes wrong i would rather see rolando as CB than storari.
the numbers i was reading about were 500k loan with an option (4m) to buy. a REAL option, not an udinese "option". furthermore, afaik he is on like 600k salary per year.
even if you think that he´s completely unnecessary -- which is quite a bold statement to make considering we have no clue about the real condition of our injured players. barzagli has been said to have returned like 5 times already and still isn´t training with the team afaik -- it´s probably not worth your time to complain about ^^.

i´m not a rolando-fan at all but as a safety-net? i don´t care. go full retard about this "excuse" if you want but ask yourself first if it´s so smart to start the new year with 3 fit CBs.

it´s also funny to see people lining up the alternatives.
JUST buy nastasic. he hasn´t played in ages and can´t even make the city bench but hey... (i like him btw. ^^)
JUST get rugani back in january. for all we know he would cost 6-7m whereas we can get him for 3m in the summer but yeah, JUST get him back but buy shaqiri as well penny-pinching beppe-fool...
 

digitalbash

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Dec 19, 2013
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Year after year you guys think we will be signing someone that will make a big difference in January. The only player we signed recently in January that has made a big difference is Barzagli and that was luck!
 

kao_ray

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Feb 28, 2014
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happy new year peasants!


what´s all this whining about rolando? imo it´s REALLY obvious that it´s just a safety first signing.
half of our CBs have been out for several months and nobodys knows when they will return and what condition they will be in.
and if anything goes wrong i would rather see rolando as CB than storari.
the numbers i was reading about were 500k loan with an option (4m) to buy. a REAL option, not an udinese "option". furthermore, afaik he is on like 600k salary per year.
even if you think that he´s completely unnecessary -- which is quite a bold statement to make considering we have no clue about the real condition of our injured players. barzagli has been said to have returned like 5 times already and still isn´t training with the team afaik -- it´s probably not worth your time to complain about ^^.

i´m not a rolando-fan at all but as a safety-net? i don´t care. go full retard about this "excuse" if you want but ask yourself first if it´s so smart to start the new year with 3 fit CBs.

it´s also funny to see people lining up the alternatives.
JUST buy nastasic. he hasn´t played in ages and can´t even make the city bench but hey... (i like him btw. ^^)
JUST get rugani back in january. for all we know he would cost 6-7m whereas we can get him for 3m in the summer but yeah, JUST get him back but buy shaqiri as well penny-pinching beppe-fool...
That's exactly how I view the situation with Rolando.
 

Dostoevsky

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May 27, 2007
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JUST buy nastasic. he hasn´t played in ages and can´t even make the city bench but hey... (i like him btw. ^^)
But getting Rolado who hasn't played for Porto makes much more sense? Or because he choked at both Napoli and Inter before that?

Nastasic is miles ahead of that guy, so it's pretty useless to say something like that. But yeah, it is a stupid comparison cause getting Nastasic is way harder, if not impossible.

We do need a CB. But getting a bad CB just because "we might need him" makes no sense either. We're gonna be stuck with him for years, unless that loan deal is true. I'm sure people would justify the move even if it was permanent, just because we did it.

Chiellini, Bonucci, Ogbonna, Rolado. IMO that's pretty horrible. Not one of them is stable defender. Not one of them has a remotely good technique and none of them is good with the ball.
 

frzl

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Apr 15, 2006
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But getting Rolado who hasn't played for Porto makes much more sense? Or because he choked at both Napoli and Inter before that?
yes, it actually makes way more sense because at least we know he is "fit" ^^. furthermore, you said it yourself: getting nastasic is way harder, if not impossible.
and tbh, considering how bad inter have been last season i would say he was half decent.

We do need a CB. But getting a bad CB just because "we might need him" makes no sense either. We're gonna be stuck with him for years, unless that loan deal is true. I'm sure people would justify the move even if it was permanent, just because we did it.
every single source says it´s a loan. if it´s a permanent deal or an obligation to buy i hate it.

Chiellini, Bonucci, Ogbonna, Rolado. IMO that's pretty horrible. Not one of them is stable defender. Not one of them has a remotely good technique and none of them is good with the ball.
so? what are you suggesting? buying a great defender in january? preferably someone who can play in cl and doesn´t cost anything because we somehow want to sign shaqiri as well?
hell yeah, i´m all for it... i also rate nastasic because of his potential but i don´t think there is any chance to get him, considering our budget.
furthermore, if we bought a better defender than rolando the others would still remain unstable, bad with ball etc..., right? so i guess we will have to live with that at least until the summer, especially if we want to go for shaqiri.
imo the only reason for this deal is to better be safe than sorry. i don´t want to see vidal or licht getting moved to CB or some other stunts like that. maybe barzagli and caceres will return to full form right away and rolando will look like an absolute fool signing but on the other hand they could also suffer a relapse and another one of our CBs could get injured...

tbh i´m not really sure what´s the purpose of your post. i think i made it very clear that i´m not a fan of rolando, not even close. furthermore, it´s obvious that anything but a 6 month loan doesn´t make sense at all.
basically i said that chiellini, bonucci, ogbonna, rolando is better than chiellini, bonucci, ogbonna, *nothing*. if you disagree with that we will have to live with that.
 

Dostoevsky

Tzu
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May 27, 2007
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yes, it actually makes way more sense because at least we know he is "fit" ^^. furthermore, you said it yourself: getting nastasic is way harder, if not impossible.
and tbh, considering how bad inter have been last season i would say he was half decent.


every single source says it´s a loan. if it´s a permanent deal or an obligation to buy i hate it.


so? what are you suggesting? buy a great defender in january? preferably someone who can play in cl and doesn´t cost anything because we somehow want to sign shaqiri as well?
hell yeah, i´m all for it... i also rate nastasic because of his potential but i don´t think there is any chance to get him, considering our budget.

tbh i´m not really sure what´s the purpose of your post. i think i made it very clear that i´m not a fan of rolando, not even close. furthermore, it´s obvious that anything but a 6 month loan doesn´t make sense at all.
basically i said that chiellini, bonucci, ogbonna, rolando is better than chiellini, bonucci, ogbonna, *nothing*. if you disagree with that we will have to live with that.
Point of my post was the thing I quoted you for. Your judgment on Nastasic which is plain silly.

I wouldn't really mind loaning Rolando, as long as it's not obligation to buy. I was just making myself clear how bad would it be.
 

Ocelot

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Jul 13, 2013
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Chiellini, Bonucci, Ogbonna, Rolado. IMO that's pretty horrible. Not one of them is stable defender. Not one of them has a remotely good technique and none of them is good with the ball.
Bonucci is pretty good with the ball for a defender, although he looks a bit clumsy at times.

And of course there are his occasional brainfarts, but that's another case. And even those have fortunately been relatively absent this season.
 

Dostoevsky

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May 27, 2007
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Really? Other than his passes I'd say he's pretty bad with the ball. Better than Chiellini but still kinda bad.

I'm scared as fuck when I see him holding the ball and other team pressing.
 
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