Who is this Allah? (12 Viewers)
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No, I was specifically responding to something TeRRoR quoted, which said, "Neither Muhammad nor Jesus came to change the basic doctrine of the belief in One God, brought by earlier prophets, but to confirm and renew it." I think that the pieces I quoted are an example of Jesus' teaching differing from the established norm.
First of all, two corrections, 'Eloi' is in Hebrew and 'Eli’ is Aramaic (Matthew 27:46), meaning My God, which is what Jesus shouted out from the cross (in reference to the Christian crucifixion, I personally do not believe in the crucifixion).
Also, God, linguistically, in the Arabic language is Allah, and the Arabic language came long before Islam. The word Allah is the literal translation of God, and it can be pluralized into Aliha (gods). Christian and Jewish Arabs’ God is called Allah, its just linguistics, 'Allah’ is not just a Muslim God, He is God in Arabic, however most Muslims refer to Him as Allah regardless of their language, to maintain the uniqueness of the pronunciation.
Regarding the Pope’s comments a few days ago, I strongly believe it wasn’t a mistake, and shouldn’t be brushed off. I beg to differ that you think Muslims overreact out of ignorance. I believe that we live in a time where Islam is being attacked left and right, and fought verbally and literally, and I would blame nobody else for this except Muslims, especially Arab Muslims, who do nothing about it. Most Muslims nowadays use the ostrich approach and complain and whine that the West is attacking them, and they don’t have enough understanding of their own religion to confront comments like that.
However, what the hell was the Pope thinking? This isn’t just a simple innocent mistake, this was thought out and planned, and he is a figure that wrongfully represents 1 billion Catholics worldwide. He needs to take responsibility for what he said.
Also, please tell me why is it that every time any Muslim speaks out against any religious or political sect, the Western world doesn’t hesitate to lash out at Muslims worldwide, and jump to label Muslims as terrorists?
I do not believe Muslims are overreacting, they are simply expressing pent up anger. Arab Muslims live under regimes where not much can be done or said, on the political AND religious front.
Its sad to think that protecting and defending one’s own religion is considered an act of ignorance.
Also, God, linguistically, in the Arabic language is Allah, and the Arabic language came long before Islam. The word Allah is the literal translation of God, and it can be pluralized into Aliha (gods). Christian and Jewish Arabs’ God is called Allah, its just linguistics, 'Allah’ is not just a Muslim God, He is God in Arabic, however most Muslims refer to Him as Allah regardless of their language, to maintain the uniqueness of the pronunciation.
Regarding the Pope’s comments a few days ago, I strongly believe it wasn’t a mistake, and shouldn’t be brushed off. I beg to differ that you think Muslims overreact out of ignorance. I believe that we live in a time where Islam is being attacked left and right, and fought verbally and literally, and I would blame nobody else for this except Muslims, especially Arab Muslims, who do nothing about it. Most Muslims nowadays use the ostrich approach and complain and whine that the West is attacking them, and they don’t have enough understanding of their own religion to confront comments like that.
However, what the hell was the Pope thinking? This isn’t just a simple innocent mistake, this was thought out and planned, and he is a figure that wrongfully represents 1 billion Catholics worldwide. He needs to take responsibility for what he said.
Also, please tell me why is it that every time any Muslim speaks out against any religious or political sect, the Western world doesn’t hesitate to lash out at Muslims worldwide, and jump to label Muslims as terrorists?
I do not believe Muslims are overreacting, they are simply expressing pent up anger. Arab Muslims live under regimes where not much can be done or said, on the political AND religious front.
Its sad to think that protecting and defending one’s own religion is considered an act of ignorance.
I have better;
Ah! methinks 'twere impossible that there could breathe a man on this earth
skilled to say as sweetly as he all the pretty nothings that mean so much -
that mean all! At times his mind seems far away, the Muse says naught - and
then, presto! he speaks - bewitchingly! enchantingly!
Can you relate?
Ah! methinks 'twere impossible that there could breathe a man on this earth
skilled to say as sweetly as he all the pretty nothings that mean so much -
that mean all! At times his mind seems far away, the Muse says naught - and
then, presto! he speaks - bewitchingly! enchantingly!
Can you relate?
Rhizoid said:
That could be true, I mean if EVVVVERY single Ethnic group wants to sit there and trace their roots, we'd have regional wars every day 
It's not like we're not proud of our Phoenician history - on the contrary - it is part of the Lebanese school curriculum.
But to say we are purely Phoenician and obtain DNA tests [I read an article on a Lebanese scientist who did that last year] and try to suddenly change our identity is quite preposterous. We're already confused with the 17 sects/religion in the tiny country, imagine once people start "rediscovering" their Phoenician heritage....chaos
It's not like we're not proud of our Phoenician history - on the contrary - it is part of the Lebanese school curriculum.
But to say we are purely Phoenician and obtain DNA tests [I read an article on a Lebanese scientist who did that last year] and try to suddenly change our identity is quite preposterous. We're already confused with the 17 sects/religion in the tiny country, imagine once people start "rediscovering" their Phoenician heritage....chaos
i agree with what u r tryig to say bec its the sad reality we r living in at the moment specially in the arab world.
regarding why some arabs (whether they r muslims or chrisitans) are ashamed of there arabic roots. well in my own opinion the answer is very simple its cos of our current situation, we were once a leading ethical group with loads and loads of discoveries in nearly all sects of life from maths to very advanced biology. i am no expert in arabic poems or in other words, poems writen before or after our prophet mohammed so i wil leave this point out for rami to explain. in brief we were a very sophisiticated group with loads of pride!!!. now look at us i think we r just useless. this is not the fault of people like me or any other arab its the fault of regimes that have made massive mistakes towards its people.
i cant deny sometimes i hate the fact i am an arab but i also have faith in tomorrow i am quite sure we will be the same as what we used to be like.
@at rebel, i dont think abdel nasser was useless what so ever u cant even compare him with any current leader in the region what so ever. at least during his time we arabs had pride and an independant opinion regarding our issues unlike now (u know what i mean) and lets not forget he benefited all the arabs not just eygptains ( he helped yemen out although i think it was a massivce mistake he got the army involved, and he also helped out several countries in the region get there independence). he did mistakes i agree with that but i also think he did loads of good things for the arab region and def for eygpt. althought i def prefer sadat over him for other reasons but i think he is the greatest arab leader in the modern history.
Altair said:
meseems, had Nature been more kind, more careful, when she fashioned me, had been one of those men who well could speak their love
but going back to the subject at hand, it is pretty pointless for all worshippers believe in the same Creator since we share the one creation.
Second part: Fob
