As grand Zizou was, Del Piero is Del Piero, and hate it or love it, I believe some fans WOULD turn their backs on Juve if Del Piero leaves.
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Who is better - Henry or Del Piero (6 Viewers)
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I am very very curious what is the point of this thread. Why would you name a thread who is better if you think one is better in every department? I have read most of what you put on here and you are right about some things but wrong on others. You are not objective at all in your comparisms and when you say Henry has a better technique then you have completely lost me there on that on
But most importantly you guys who come on here and compare Dp with every player in the world , as there is a clown who is asking whether Dp is better than davids, is it because you think you would only get a response by talking about Dp
You claim you are a Juve supporter and SerieA is your fave league and also that you and your friends feel Juve would be better off with Dp
Are you suggesting we replace him with Henry? Is that the reason for this thread?
You claim he only scores against Lecce, Ancona and Siena , well you might be right but unfortunately he was not available to meet Leeds United, Leicester city, Manchester city, Tottenham or those other huge teams with marvellous defences
Henry is far better in big games? Yes of cos he is , thats why in Arsenal's big game of the season, he was invisible claiming he had a bad back and hamstring probs but lo and behold was able to score a hattrick 2 days later
He was so fantastic against Galatasarray in Arsenal's only European cup final during his stint there
How many cup finals in England has he scored in? Played 3 scored 0
In the wc2002 without Zz, he so inspired France to be knocked out in the first round without scoring a goal
Yeah fantastic big game player
He is a fabulous player and deserves all his accolades but is there any reason to compare him to Dp when we all know Dp is having such a bad time of it
Or are you just one of those ones who feels the only way to get attention is to go to a Juve forum and bring up Dp's name
Bet you probably have gone to Roma forum and asked if Ronaldo is better than Totti and claimed you are a Roma fan as well
Now just to clarify something, this season Dp did not play against Milan at all, played against Inter 1 and a !/2 times and scored 1, played once against Lazio and 5 mins against Roma in 2 matches
Last season which he was meant to be crap according to some, he met Roma twice and scored 3, met Lazio 2ce and didnt score, met Inter once and scored 1 and met Milan 11/2 times and didnt score but provided both assists at home
But of cos that does not matter, its conveniently ignored by you
But most importantly you guys who come on here and compare Dp with every player in the world , as there is a clown who is asking whether Dp is better than davids, is it because you think you would only get a response by talking about Dp
You claim you are a Juve supporter and SerieA is your fave league and also that you and your friends feel Juve would be better off with Dp
Are you suggesting we replace him with Henry? Is that the reason for this thread?
You claim he only scores against Lecce, Ancona and Siena , well you might be right but unfortunately he was not available to meet Leeds United, Leicester city, Manchester city, Tottenham or those other huge teams with marvellous defences
Henry is far better in big games? Yes of cos he is , thats why in Arsenal's big game of the season, he was invisible claiming he had a bad back and hamstring probs but lo and behold was able to score a hattrick 2 days later
He was so fantastic against Galatasarray in Arsenal's only European cup final during his stint there
How many cup finals in England has he scored in? Played 3 scored 0
In the wc2002 without Zz, he so inspired France to be knocked out in the first round without scoring a goal
Yeah fantastic big game player
He is a fabulous player and deserves all his accolades but is there any reason to compare him to Dp when we all know Dp is having such a bad time of it
Or are you just one of those ones who feels the only way to get attention is to go to a Juve forum and bring up Dp's name
Bet you probably have gone to Roma forum and asked if Ronaldo is better than Totti and claimed you are a Roma fan as well
Now just to clarify something, this season Dp did not play against Milan at all, played against Inter 1 and a !/2 times and scored 1, played once against Lazio and 5 mins against Roma in 2 matches
Last season which he was meant to be crap according to some, he met Roma twice and scored 3, met Lazio 2ce and didnt score, met Inter once and scored 1 and met Milan 11/2 times and didnt score but provided both assists at home
But of cos that does not matter, its conveniently ignored by you
Denco youre on point bruvs
I dislike these fools that come up with these threads to make DP look shit when the mans not even playing? Cowardly. Kick the man when hes down.
To me Alessandro Del Piero is the best ever. Success lies in struggle thats the point your missing out. Every great player has bad and good times. My god how many times has DP been down ever since 98 injury after injury but he comes back with the strength of a lion.
Henry-Worldclass. Now name me one or more if can find them worldclass defenders in EPL. And John Terry, Campbell, Rio etc count as good. Im talking about Nesta quality.
He came on vs Lecce created a goal because his set plays are fire and thats not important is it, then he scored a two touch goal second nature for him. Alessandro may have lost his confidence but hes still the don and can create magic.
I dislike these fools that come up with these threads to make DP look shit when the mans not even playing? Cowardly. Kick the man when hes down.To me Alessandro Del Piero is the best ever. Success lies in struggle thats the point your missing out. Every great player has bad and good times. My god how many times has DP been down ever since 98 injury after injury but he comes back with the strength of a lion.
Henry-Worldclass. Now name me one or more if can find them worldclass defenders in EPL. And John Terry, Campbell, Rio etc count as good. Im talking about Nesta quality.
He came on vs Lecce created a goal because his set plays are fire and thats not important is it, then he scored a two touch goal second nature for him. Alessandro may have lost his confidence but hes still the don and can create magic.
As far as I'm concerned this is an extremely pointless thread as denco quite flawlessly pointed out, and no, I don't agree. Henry is better when it comes to finishing, pace, fitness, and perhaps big games, but he's not that creative and his free kicks aren't that brilliant either. And when you talk about technique there are few players that are better than Del Piero, and Henry is not one of them imo.
good response by denco and others in favour of DP. Still, there are many who do not believe that he will improve nor is the great player that he used to be. Others have overtaken him and he is far from a big-time player, having disappointed so many during the CL finals and the 1998 WC. A truly great player will not fall on the ball nor kick a corner a good 10 yards behind the goal with the ball going behind the line from the moment he kicked it. This is based on many years of watching football avidly. DP used to be my favourite player but no longer due to too many disappointments.
Juve is an entirely different matter. Have been a Juve fan since 83 and will be till my last days. Far greater ones like Platini, Baggio and Zidane can come and go and I have still remained loyal. What more a mere DP? How many of the DP supporters on this thread are willing to say that they will be happy to see DP go if that can improve Juve?
Juve is an entirely different matter. Have been a Juve fan since 83 and will be till my last days. Far greater ones like Platini, Baggio and Zidane can come and go and I have still remained loyal. What more a mere DP? How many of the DP supporters on this thread are willing to say that they will be happy to see DP go if that can improve Juve?
Well I think my post is short, but powerful. I don't think there is need to explain it further.
DP's job is to score goals and give assist. It's normal that if he doesn't do well his job, Juve's attack will be average, just like is normal that if the defense like this year sucks, that Juve defense will be poor...so if DP had a defense like this year when he won the scudetto's surely he wouldnt have won shit, and the same thing can be applied if Dp wouldn't have been in top form when Juve won scudetto's. They would'nt have won shit either. In order to win the whole team needs to his job.
I would like to remind u that Juve lost 3 champions league final having DP, and the one won against Ajax, DP played pretty average, which backs up my theory.
DP's job is to score goals and give assist. It's normal that if he doesn't do well his job, Juve's attack will be average, just like is normal that if the defense like this year sucks, that Juve defense will be poor...so if DP had a defense like this year when he won the scudetto's surely he wouldnt have won shit, and the same thing can be applied if Dp wouldn't have been in top form when Juve won scudetto's. They would'nt have won shit either. In order to win the whole team needs to his job.
I would like to remind u that Juve lost 3 champions league final having DP, and the one won against Ajax, DP played pretty average, which backs up my theory.
I don't really get what you mean Sparty. Well the last part I did, just that "winning-shit" thing
I don't know. Why I rate DP so highly is because, well, we all know he's pure class and talented. No one can ever deny this. But many support for him has died down throughout the years after his injury.. those who want him sold in Juve for Juve's sake I understand, but for me even if he's not good as he once was he STILL is good.
People tend to compare DP to what he was and now isn't, but people also tend to forget that the current Del Piero, though probably not as incredible, is still one hell of a player and causes havoc to other teams. Del Piero has not fallen.
I don't know. Why I rate DP so highly is because, well, we all know he's pure class and talented. No one can ever deny this. But many support for him has died down throughout the years after his injury.. those who want him sold in Juve for Juve's sake I understand, but for me even if he's not good as he once was he STILL is good.
People tend to compare DP to what he was and now isn't, but people also tend to forget that the current Del Piero, though probably not as incredible, is still one hell of a player and causes havoc to other teams. Del Piero has not fallen.
denco, i think u have overstepped the mark here.
for dp's infamous corner kicks, check out the first game he played in the 1998 WC, that being the second game Italy played. My point of comparing him to Henry obviously stings people like you who cannot accept that he is no longer in his prime although you do accept that there are others who are better than him currently. Quite obviously, you are also blind to the fact that DP is very inefficient in terms of ball possession, either losing them or making inconsequential passes. And do not come back with the point that he is always tightly marked. Van Nisterooy, Henry, Raul are also tightly shackled and do not lose the ball as frequently as he does. Defenders in Serie A also regard him as an easy defensive assignment, being a one-trick horse. Is that world class technique some of you are alluding to?
Secondly, you are downgrading the other 10 players that play with DP when he won the 5 scudettos. Wonder why journalists never rave about how DP carrying a team while they have said that when Platini, Zidane and Baggio played for Juve? Its in fact a well-known fact that he has always choked in the grand final and the WC stage - it is also known in the Serie A that he is weak in terms of confidence. That Dp scores 16 goals and Juve wins the scudetto is testimony of the fact that the team as a whole plays well! He alone did not tear defences apart single handedly! For the umpteen time, a player's championship medals does not reflect his PERSONAL greatness. As Graham had stated, that line of argument would make Phil Neville a better player than DP, something I think not!
FInally, you dont know anything about me. So do not make a fool of yourself in making deductions of me, that I am somebody else who have posted on this forum previously or that I have always hated DP. You do need to back up what you say and you cant in either case.
And I am different from you because I choose to believe that DP is no longer beneficial to Juve and that the club need to let him go in order to progress. Whether I am wrong, only time will tell.
for dp's infamous corner kicks, check out the first game he played in the 1998 WC, that being the second game Italy played. My point of comparing him to Henry obviously stings people like you who cannot accept that he is no longer in his prime although you do accept that there are others who are better than him currently. Quite obviously, you are also blind to the fact that DP is very inefficient in terms of ball possession, either losing them or making inconsequential passes. And do not come back with the point that he is always tightly marked. Van Nisterooy, Henry, Raul are also tightly shackled and do not lose the ball as frequently as he does. Defenders in Serie A also regard him as an easy defensive assignment, being a one-trick horse. Is that world class technique some of you are alluding to?
Secondly, you are downgrading the other 10 players that play with DP when he won the 5 scudettos. Wonder why journalists never rave about how DP carrying a team while they have said that when Platini, Zidane and Baggio played for Juve? Its in fact a well-known fact that he has always choked in the grand final and the WC stage - it is also known in the Serie A that he is weak in terms of confidence. That Dp scores 16 goals and Juve wins the scudetto is testimony of the fact that the team as a whole plays well! He alone did not tear defences apart single handedly! For the umpteen time, a player's championship medals does not reflect his PERSONAL greatness. As Graham had stated, that line of argument would make Phil Neville a better player than DP, something I think not!
FInally, you dont know anything about me. So do not make a fool of yourself in making deductions of me, that I am somebody else who have posted on this forum previously or that I have always hated DP. You do need to back up what you say and you cant in either case.
And I am different from you because I choose to believe that DP is no longer beneficial to Juve and that the club need to let him go in order to progress. Whether I am wrong, only time will tell.
Amen to all that! Couldn't have put it in better words! I TOTALLY AGREE DEE DEE, but unfortunatley u wont change anybody's mind cuz people like Denco who r DP lovers will aways cheer him no matter what. I think the DP subject has been discuss to infinity with the same results.
I only hope that this year Juve ,since they r a little bit in a financial trouble will sell DP and use the money to buy new talents...
I only hope that this year Juve ,since they r a little bit in a financial trouble will sell DP and use the money to buy new talents...