What is your god like? (14 Viewers)

[Zé Tahir]

Yes, so the Quran MUST be true .

Dear god, this shit is so retarded I can't even believe you just said that.

He didn't even mention the Qur'an. Why are you putting words in his mouth?

 

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[Martin]

He didn't even mention the Qur'an. Why are you putting words in his mouth?

Au contraire, flyboy

Let me start with your last phrase which I pretty much agree with.

There is no way to prove God exist or to prove he doesn't.

That's exactly what God says according to Quran, God describe human mental ability as too limited to recognize the exact nature of God (which is true as we can never prove he exist and even if we assume he exist we can never recognize his nature).

Did you ever thought that maybe the missing piece of the picture is not the (Big Bang or God) it is just that human being mind has limitation to recognize the reasoning behind universe no matter if it is God or Big Bang?

 

[Zé Tahir]

Au contraire, flyboy

His argument didn't make the deduction Seven made.

 

[Martin]

Oh, but he did. He's saying the human mind is too limited to decide the question of God. And where does he get this axiom? From the Quran. Hence Seven said: the Quran must be true. Which is a logical consequence if you assume this insight about our ability to know god is correct. Otherwise you must explain on what basis you know this.

 

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[DelpieroForLife]

Oh, but he did. He's saying the human mind is too limited to decide the question of God. And where does he get this axiom? From the Quran. Hence Seven said: the Quran must be true. Which is a logical consequence if you assume this insight about our ability to know god is correct. Otherwise you must explain on what basis you know this.

Ignore the fact it was mentioned in Quran... lets assume I read it in today's newspaper.

Do you agree that human mind is so limited to decide the question of God ?

 

[Seven]

DPFL and Ze Tahir: do you guys understand your own posts?

 

[Martin]

Ignore the fact it was mentioned in Quran... lets assume I read it in today's newspaper.

Do you agree that human mind is so limited to decide the question of God ?

No.

 

[DelpieroForLife]

DPFL and Ze Tahir: do you guys understand your own posts?

Care to enlighten us and help us open our blind eyes?

 

[Seven]

You don't understand the consequences of what you say.

 

[DelpieroForLife]

No.

If human mind can answer this question, did he answer it yet? If yes what is the answer.

 

[Seven]

If human mind can answer this question, did he answer it yet? If yes what is the answer.

He didn't answer it yet, but that doesn't prove anything. At one point we weren't able to make fire, would you argue that that's because we inherently don't know how to do it? Because boy, there's quite a lot of evidence to the contrary.

 

[DelpieroForLife]

You don't understand the consequences of what you say.

Please enlighten me I'm begging you.

 

[Zé Tahir]

I'm not getting involved this time Enjoy your day gentlemen.

 

[Martin]

If human mind can answer this question, did he answer it yet? If yes what is the answer.

The answer is very simple. The human mind invented god.

 

[DelpieroForLife]

He didn't answer it yet, but that doesn't prove anything. At one point we weren't able to make fire, would you argue that that's because we inherently don't know how to do it? Because boy, there's quite a lot of evidence to the contrary.

Evidence to contrary that's what I'm talking about... please list examples better than your fire man.

PS when I say human mind can't tell if God exist that's not equal to say God exist... you don't have to hate me yet.

 

[Martin]

I'm not getting involved this time Enjoy your day gentlemen.

I accept your concession

 

[DelpieroForLife]

The answer is very simple. The human mind invented god.

In my argument God = Big Bang = Reasoning behind universe creation or evolution.

Did human mind invented universe too?

 

[Martin]

In my argument God = Big Bang = Reasoning behind universe creation or evolution.

Well, there you see is the problem. If people were willing to say exactly what it is they believe in, which is EXACTLY what I tried to do in this thread, we could settle this question in 5 minutes. But instead everyone just says "god" and noone knows what the word means to the other person.

Did human mind invented universe too?

No.

 

[Bisco]

ok martin i have a question for u lets change roles for a bit why dont u think we should'nt believe in religions or god? if thats the case then what happens when people pass away? whats teh purpose for us being here on this earth?

thats the first part of my question


i speak for my self when i say that i believe in a god that exists and he is the all mighty, i believe in death and Resurrection on judgement day, i believe in fate good and bad, and i believe that there is heaven and hell. why should'nt i believe in this if there is evidence in the holy Quran which i also believe is a miracle from god to muslims and every word in it is in its original context and its the word of Allah.