Lapa

FLY, EAGLES FLY
Sep 29, 2008
19,954
I need a device that could memorize everything I think about...no time to write all the things down. :moan:

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I'm getting old since I love watching cycling. :shifty: @Martin
 

Lapa

FLY, EAGLES FLY
Sep 29, 2008
19,954
Nothing better than watching Giro/Vuelta/Tour! Well maybe watching Juve match is but still. :D

EDIT: My coach from the past loved cycling. I never got it before like ten years ago.
 

Martin

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2000
56,913
Nothing better than watching Giro/Vuelta/Tour! Well maybe watching Juve match is but still. :D

EDIT: My coach from the past loved cycling. I never got it before like ten years ago.
but it's so damn long

it's like watching this (in case anyone is wondering what's on tv in norway for 6 months):

 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
38,235
Lol. Apparently VRT (which is our national television broadcasting company) showed explicit (not blurred) kiddie porn on the news. I think this might be a problem.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
38,235
So what is VW actually liable for here?
Well, a couple of things.

Everyone who bought a Volkswagen could say Volkswagen are guilty of misrepresentation. In Belgium that would make the contract void. Volkswagen would have to pay back the money and additional damages. Of course few people will go down this route, because that would mean turning in your car. And according to Belgian law you would only get your money back for what the car is worth today.

Another problem is that cars are taxed for their pollution. Because Volkswagen lied about the pollution, the logical consequence would be that that everyone who bought such a car has to pay additional taxes and penalties. Of course they would ask their money back from Volkswagen in this case..

Between all this stuff and the fact that people will certainly consider buying somewhere else in the future, this is going to be a big deal. As far I can understand it may not entirely be justified as there are voices saying that other car companies are just as bad.
 

Martin

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2000
56,913
Well, a couple of things.

Everyone who bought a Volkswagen could say Volkswagen are guilty of misrepresentation. In Belgium that would make the contract void. Volkswagen would have to pay back the money and additional damages. Of course few people will go down this route, because that would mean turning in your car. And according to Belgian law you would only get your money back for what the car is worth today.

Another problem is that cars are taxed for their pollution. Because Volkswagen lied about the pollution, the logical consequence would be that that everyone who bought such a car has to pay additional taxes and penalties. Of course they would ask their money back from Volkswagen in this case..

Between all this stuff and the fact that people will certainly consider buying somewhere else in the future, this is going to be a big deal. As far I can understand it may not entirely be justified as there are voices saying that other car companies are just as bad.
That's quite a pickle. But indeed, I wonder how isolated this fraud really is.
 

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