[WC] World Cup 2010 - General Talk Thread (31 Viewers)

Sep 1, 2002
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and one doesnt need for a team they "cheered" for to win to throw a party, i just dont get it tbh oh and the WC is over our deal is done ;)
I can't watch any match without supporting one of the teams.

But Spain has always been my curse until recently. Germany are my other lover. Don't tell me you've never been torn in passion.

I rather like the avatar but the sig- although funny- has to go.
 

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Sep 1, 2002
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World Cup 2010: Dutch tactics upset Johan Cruyff

Dutch football legend Johan Cruyff has launched a scathing attack on Netherlands' display in the World Cup final, deriding it as "anti-football".
The Dutch received nine yellow cards, and a red card for Johnny Heitinga, as they lost 1-0 to Spain in South Africa.
"Sadly, they played very dirty," Cruyff told Spanish newspaper El Periodico.
"This ugly, vulgar, hard, hermetic, hardly eye-catching, hardly football style... If with this they got satisfaction, fine, but they lost."
Cruyff was the symbol of 'Total Football', which earned the Dutch successive World Cup final appearances in 1974 and 1978.
Netherlands coach Bert van Marwijk appeared to opt for pragmatism over style as he led the Oranje to a third final in South Africa, but the result was the same, as Andres Iniesta scored an extra-time winner for Spain.
But Sunday's game was also notable for Netherlands' surprisingly aggressive approach.
Cruyff, along with many others, believed Mark van Bommel and Nigel de Jong were lucky not to be sent off before half-time, Van Bommel for a tackle from behind on Iniesta and De Jong for kicking Xabi Alonso in the chest.
"They should have been down to nine immediately, then they made two [such] ugly and hard tackles that even I felt the damage," said the 63-year-old Cruyff.
"It hurts me that Holland chose an ugly path to aim for the title."
Cruyff brought his footballing philosophy to Barcelona in an eight-year spell as manager, and he is widely credited with the one-touch passing style still employed by the Catalan club, who provided the backbone of Spain's World Cup-winning squad.
However, in the Champions League semi-final last season, Pep Guardiola's side were upset by a defence-minded Inter Milan, coached by Jose Mourinho - a fact not lost on Cruyff.
"On Thursday they asked me from Holland 'Can we play like Inter? Can we stop Spain in the same way Mourinho eliminated Barca?'
"I said no, no way at all. I said no, not because I hate this style, I said no because I thought that my country wouldn't dare to and would never renounce their style. I said no because, without having great players like those of the past, the team has its own style.
"I was wrong. Of course I'm not hanging all 11 of them by the same rope, but almost. They didn't want the ball."
Cruyff also joined in the criticism of English referee Howard Webb, accusing him of being too soft with the players.
"A World Cup final deserves great refereeing and, above all, deserves a referee who dares to do everything it means to be a judge," he said.


The ultimate criticism.
 

Red

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Nov 26, 2006
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Meh.

Football is about playing to your strengths.

It's a complete waste of time to try to dominate possession against Spain, so you have to find another way to win.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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no WAY were Spain the better team...just came came down to who took their chance

Robben.................................................
The better team is the team who takes their chances.




Team who takes their chances = Team that wins the game.

Team that wins the game = The better team.
 

Red

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Nov 26, 2006
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Strengths... like the flying front kick.:D
Too much is being made of that.

It was reckless and should have been a red, but it wasn't the sort of challenge you set out to go for with the intention of roughing a team up with.

Tackles like the ones Puyol and Van Bommel got booked for are more premeditated and designed to put in a cheap hit to make the opposition think twice about taking time on the ball.
 

Bisco

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Nov 21, 2005
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The better team is the team who takes their chances.




Team who takes their chances = Team that wins the game.

Team that wins the game = The better team.
i agree with all that u mentioned fred except the bolded part!! thats not always the rule in footie. there are tonnes of examples when the better team lost in 90 mins of playing.

you r def spot on regarding the team that makes every attempt on goal count being the team to win and sadly holland wasted there chances and hence they conceded the goal in the end of the game.
 

Enron

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Oct 11, 2005
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Too much is being made of that.

It was reckless and should have been a red, but it wasn't the sort of challenge you set out to go for with the intention of roughing a team up with.

Tackles like the ones Puyol and Van Bommel got booked for are more premeditated and designed to put in a cheap hit to make the opposition think twice about taking time on the ball.
It was reckless and De Jong should forever be branded a dirty player. Remember he broke Stuart Holden's leg in a similarly reckless challenge before the World Cup.

Plus he's flying through the air, and that's soo cool.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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i agree with all that u mentioned fred except the bolded part!! thats not always the rule in footie. there are tonnes of examples when the better team lost in 90 mins of playing.

you r def spot on regarding the team that makes every attempt on goal count being the team to win and sadly holland wasted there chances and hence they conceded the goal in the end of the game.

You can't be the better team and lose. It just doesn't make sense to me(unless your horribly screwed over by the referee), other than that you just can't be the better team and lose in my book.

The better team is the team that knows how to win a game, and that for me is the definition of better.
 

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