[WC] Italia vs Ghana [12-06-2006] (1 Viewer)

ZhiXin

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Oct 1, 2004
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Azzurri7 said:
Anyone saw Nesta's beckheel taking ball??? man that defender is something:star:
That backheel interception is really nice to see. I think I saw Stam did it b4
Personally I prefer his bicycle kick clearance (forgot when he did it)
 

zizoufan

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May 25, 2004
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I loved italy style of playing ! they looked sharp especially in second half.
But spanish press said that italy win is due to referee decisions.
As far i am concerned there was a clear penalty for ghana if not two
 

zizoufan

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May 25, 2004
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We paid penalty, says Muntari Tuesday 13 June, 2006

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Udinese midfielder Sulley Ali Muntari feels his Ghana side should have been awarded at least one penalty against Italy last night.

The African World Cup virgins lost 2-0 to the dynamic Azzurri in Hanover after Andrea Pirlo and Vincenzo Iaquinta rippled the net.

Yet Ghana did have two penalty appeals rejected by Brazilian referee Carlos Simon while the tie was still at only 1-0.

“We had two chances for a penalty,” said the Serie A based midfielder. “One could have been a spot-kick, because he [Daniele De Rossi] pushed him [Asamoah Gyan] in the box.

“But the referee was right there so we can't say anything.”

Ghana were certainly not outplayed by the three-time world champions, but some slack defending cost them dearly on the night.

However, boss Ratomir Dujkovic is remaining upbeat and is still targeting a place in the last 16 of the competition.

“I still believe we can reach the knock-out stage,” Dujkovic noted. “I believe in my team and I am confident we can get a good result against the Czech Republic.

"We are improving with every game. The players are a little disappointed but we will pick them up. The important thing is we played well."

Although Ghana enjoyed spells of long possession, especially in the second half, they did struggle to create any real clear cut chances.

Chelsea midfielder Michael Essien managed to get a rare shot on goal, but was expertly denied by an alert Gigi Buffon.

"We looked strong tonight. We could have lost or won, but that's football,” stated Essien. “It didn't quite come through for us.

"We need to sharpen up a little bit up front and that's what we will work on in training over the next few days.”

Ghana play the Czech Republic next on Saturday, just hours before the Azzurri take on the United States.

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I think it's unfair for this magnificient team ( ghana)
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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zizoufan said:
I loved italy style of playing ! they looked sharp especially in second half.
But spanish press said that italy win is due to referee decisions.
As far i am concerned there was a clear penalty for ghana if not two

FFS, Let everyone get over it and probably soap it....Italy have had enough of Refree's, so It's ok If they didn't give penalty for Ghana last night.
 

ZAF3000

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Feb 14, 2005
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Vinman said:
I think Lippi tempted fate in a bad way today, and got off pretty lucky. Picking Zaccardo over Oddo, having Perrotta start instead of Camo, and Iaquinta over anyone were some risky choices

A defense with Zaccardo and Grosso is going to be a liability, we better hope that Zamby comes back FAST. Ghana's best attacks came on Zaccardo's side of the field, and he was nowhere to be found...twice

Camo proved why he should be starting...he comes into the game and controls the ball well, crosses better than most of the team, and makes things happen. Perrotta was ok, but Camo is better for that position.

Lippi took a chance bringing in Iaquinta, and it luckily paid off. He scored on a Ghana miscue, but dont bet the bank on Iaquinta repeating that performance.

As far as formations and tactics, I thought we looked out of sorts at times...maybe its because Lippi kept shuffling things around too much, not giving the starters enough time to gel together in training and the friendlies we played. I noticed a lot of space between the mids and forwards several times during the game, and we relying too much on the longball to create the offense. We didnt build the play enough, like we showed in previous games against Germany and Holland (which is why I think we should go back to where we performed best- the 4-3-3)

My last comment is on the "catenaccio" we played towards the end of the game...our defense with Zaccardo and Grosso in there arent good enough to pull it off if we have a lead against better teams.

As bad as we played at times today, we still won 2-0, which is pretty amazing !!
Vinman, I agree with some points, but I disagree one others.
The things I disagree is that Lippi was lucky.. Well yes he was but not thats all about it. He was smart too. He could've taken out Gilardino and brought in Del Piero or Pippo, but he prefered Iaquinta. The reason was obvious. He wanted a fast forward for the counters. Immediately once Iaquinta got in he had two one-on-ones. First was offside where he was tackled badly. Second one was the goal. So objective acheived.
Chosing Perrotta over Camoranesi was tactical. With Gatuso not in the picture he had to put a player who can work deffensively more. This way he can give more space for both Zacardo and Grosso to push forward.
The way Lippi played was very good and was very exhausting for the oponent team. If you have noticed, he played with Totti behind the strikers. Then 3 midfielders Pirlo, De Rosi and Perotta moving around changing places. During some times Pirlo was playing DM with De Rossi and Perotta pushing a bit forward and to the flanks. Then at other times Pirlo was found as a right midfielder with others covering other areas..etc. Then whenever Zacardo or Grosso pushes forward you would notice that two off the trio would keep behind..
Such formation is not possible with Camoranesi in the field as one of those three, because his deffensive abilities are not upto par with the rest, especially when Zamrbotta is not on the field also. If you have noticed, camoranesi did not come in for one of the trio, he came in for Totti.
About chosing Zacardo over Oddo, well I think that it has to do with fitness. I have my doubts that Oddo can run up and down the field as much as Zacardo did. And since Zacardo is not as good as Oddo deffensively this gives another reason why he chose Perrotta over Camoranesi.
I agree on that fact that Italy tended to play long balls too much, I think part of it is because they didn't want to get too physical with Ghana players, which is understandable, PLUS their deffense seemed to shake under long balls. Never the less, I would've prefered less long balls and more build up attacks.
 

Stephan

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Nov 9, 2005
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i read that some wanted camo to start instead of perrotta or de rossi. but to be honest i see here some very good tactics by lippi.

why? perrotta derossi are both players who are playing a lot in the midfield, they dont go forward that much, they stay around the midfield. when camo came in the second half, we saw automatically some refreshments in attack, camo running with the ball forward, giving some crosses. But think now if camo would have started, then derossi or perrotta would have subs him probably(because totti would have started anyway), and that means a bit more defensive tactic, as perrotta and derossi are a bit more defensive(read: not so aggressive then camo) with their game, that also means the defens of ghana wouldnt have had much more trouble with italy, and ghana could have concentrate on going forward only.


and about something else, some here said that why there isnt certain starting XI, but thats good, because the opponents wouldnt be sure who will start. it wouldnt be like ibra-trez-nedved start every match for juve with capello :p
 

Morra10

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Apr 30, 2006
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here are some player quotes after the game

ITALY-GHANA: Players' Quotes
13 June 2006
by FIFAworldcup.com

Andrea PIRLO (ITA), Budweiser Man of the Match
I'm happy with the way I'm playing. We worked hard this week to get to where we are and will continue to improve over the next five or six days. The goal came at an important time for the whole team; we had been creating a lot of chances. It's a good start.

Francesco TOTTI (ITA)
We played well and deserved the win. The fans were great and gave us a real lift with their support. I went off not as a precautionary measure or because I was afraid of any physical contact with the Ghana players, but because I took a nasty knock.

Vincenzo IAQUINTA (ITA)
I can't express how it felt when I scored, I couldn't believe what was happening. My team-mates' reaction during the celebrations said it all – it was unbelievable. It's been a difficult season for me, and things didn't go according to plan. This goal is for my family.

Gianluigi BUFFON (ITA)
It's a good, positive start, which is important in a competition such as the World Cup. Ghana were physical and skilful, as we knew they would be, but we put in a fine performance. We showed that we're in this together, and that makes me very happy. It even makes me feel like talking again.

Cristian ZACCARDO (ITA)
It's all a bit of a fairytale. I've been finding it hard to get to sleep for a while now, but tonight was like dreaming with my eyes wide open – a dream come true.

Alberto GILARDINO (ITA)
The first game in the FIFA World Cup is a big moment. I'm happy with my performance, I didn't score this time around but I'm sure I'll get my name on the score sheet (later).

Stephen APPIAH (GHA)
We didn't take our chances, Italy were more clinical. We have to learn from our mistakes for the next games. We were naive tonight and gave the ball away too much in dangerous areas. I think we've got the players to do well in the rest of our matches.

Emmanuel PAPPOE (GHA)
The FIFA World Cup is the ultimate football competition and it was great for us to play in such a fantastic game. The loss isn't down to any one player, you win and lose as a team. I must admit that playing in that kind of stadium in front of so many fans sent shivers down my spine.

Otto ADDO (GHA)
Many of us were playing the most important game of our lives. We put in a good performance and showed what we can do. That said, I'm sure we can improve - we need to be more careful in defence, for example. The only really disappointing aspect of the evening was the result. It's going to be tough for us now.

Samuel KUFFOUR (GHA)
Not scoring cost us dearly. We created some clear-cut chances and should have put a few of them away. Now we'll have to give it our best shot against the Czech Republic. We changed our formation after the break but it wasn't enough to turn things around. Tonight is a sad moment for my family, my country and for the whole of Africa. What do I think of the Italian players? Most of them are good friends of mine.

Hans SARPEI (GHA)
Italy are a great side and they showed it tonight. We played well in midfield and had chances to score, but unfortunately the goal never came. We're very pleased that we matched them for the whole game, even if we didn't get the result we wanted.
 

ThePLaya

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Nov 8, 2005
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Azzurri7 said:
I've been reading your posts after the game. You're bullshitting things alot.

its ur problem i don't blame you & because i did not mention Dp . thats why ?​


Juve_25 said:
I think you really have something personal against Italy



because in my opinion this match was one of the best played by Italy so far.

Not really

And it was my opinion too not only urs​


Morra10 said:
there is a bunch of italy haters......but remember their name because when they win it they will be cheering forza azzurri
italy did win Ghana .. remember my name here !

i was not cheering 4 that ?

Huh​

Juve_25 said:
Trure. I have a list of some friends that always mess with Italy. I can agregate ThePlaya too :D

aaaha

that was me

The PLaya ( italian national team hater)

The PLaya = could not give at least a critique so that's why he hate Italy?

ha ha​
 

Juve_25

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Jan 3, 2006
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ThePLaya said:

aaaha

that was me

The PLaya ( italian national team hater)

The PLaya = could not give at least a critique so that's why he hate Italy?


ha ha​
I respect your opinion...respect my joke. I didn't know you were that serious.
Are you sure you only said one objective critic?
 

giovanotti

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Aug 13, 2004
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Zlatan är Kung said:
wow so is Iaquinta a God? I mean someone who gets "injured" that BADLY and starts cyring and the hospital needs to come to get him then 3 seconds later he scores a goal....hmm? Deja vue? No thats just Italy
Ibrahimovic would enter later and he wont score,because he can't,that's the difference.
 

ThePLaya

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Nov 8, 2005
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Juve_25 said:
I respect your opinion...respect my joke. I didn't know you were that serious.
Are you sure you only said one objective critic?

was i joking for giving my opinion !

or its cuz i was tough in my analyse ?

Da
 

ZhiXin

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Oct 1, 2004
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Stephan said:
i read that some wanted camo to start instead of perrotta or de rossi. but to be honest i see here some very good tactics by lippi.

why? perrotta derossi are both players who are playing a lot in the midfield, they dont go forward that much, they stay around the midfield. when camo came in the second half, we saw automatically some refreshments in attack, camo running with the ball forward, giving some crosses. But think now if camo would have started, then derossi or perrotta would have subs him probably(because totti would have started anyway), and that means a bit more defensive tactic, as perrotta and derossi are a bit more defensive(read: not so aggressive then camo) with their game, that also means the defens of ghana wouldnt have had much more trouble with italy, and ghana could have concentrate on going forward only.


and about something else, some here said that why there isnt certain starting XI, but thats good, because the opponents wouldnt be sure who will start. it wouldnt be like ibra-trez-nedved start every match for juve with capello :p
With the addition of losing the ball, having mistimed passes and a lack of urgency
 

giovanotti

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Aug 13, 2004
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ThePLaya said:
Exacly !

what's that ?
Exactly-for the Morra's statement about the bunch of Italy haters that will cheer "Forza Azzurri"!!!!

I remember many members before the match against Ghana without a fate,saying some stupidities about some "trap coward tactics",and after the game they were saying totally oposite things...
 

Stephan

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Nov 9, 2005
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ZhiXin said:
With the addition of losing the ball, having mistimed passes and a lack of urgency
but who says he would have done better if he would have started the game from first minute :confused2

players cant make mistakes? oh please...
 

ZhiXin

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Oct 1, 2004
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Stephan said:
but who says he would have done better if he would have started the game from first minute :confused2

players cant make mistakes? oh please...
That's what u think

I can understand y Lippi opted for Perrotta as he wants the latter to play in a more advanced role like those under Spalletti, and he can do well in that position. That role is where he makes a deep impact for Roma, and earned him a spot in the Azzurri jersey

Camoranesi is rather inconsistent in games, and this game is no surprise. And Camoranesi isn't really good when defending against fast players as well.
 

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