US Presidential Elections thread - the fate of the world to be decided (29 Viewers)

Who would you vote to be the next President of the United States?

  • John McCain

  • Barack Obama

  • undecided


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Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
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about the abortion thing... yeah, it's unfortunate when a woman gets raped and becomes pregnant, or if the child is sick or abnormal. but what about the child itself, nobody gives it a choice (obviously it can't decide). but it deserves a chance to live, and should not be murdered for the parents' convenience or happiness. besides that being selfish, it's plain murder, whether the child is born or not.

i would understand a little, in those cases, though, the rape and sickness. but, if it's out of inconvenience, wtf? plus, if it's so pro-choice, how come drugs (cocaine, heroine) aren't legal? i mean, shouldn't i be able to choose if i destroy my mental, physical and phsycological/emotional state (which is also what happens with abortion)?
If the parents can't give the child a good one, if they will let them suffer, then the best way is abortion. This is a complicated subject, but it should never be banned!

Evolution IS fact. Like it or not. You don't have to think about it anymore, snoop. If you do want to think about it, you need to study science and do some research. At the moment the theory of evolution stands about as strong as Newton's law of gravitation. If you say it's okay not to believe in evolution, but take the Genesis as scientific fact (which is what the post you originally replied to stated many Americans do), you must be out of your mind.

The start of everything is quite different. Whereas the Big Bang as a concept is widely recognised as correct, it obviously doesn't answer all questions. Because what then would have triggered the Big Bang?




Don't get me started on this one. Are you christian? Because you sound like you know nothing about it. Most christian subdivisions are known to be highly judgmental. Despite all your bullshit about this subject, it all boils down to this one line for someone who believes:

I am good because I believe, you are bad because you don't.



Yeah, if only the parents would have told their kiddos it wasn't such a good idea to go on a fucking crusade in 1092. As for the pope: what do you want? The world's biggest religious leader living in a cave? That's nonsense.
That's a weak argument. Just like religious freaks dis science because of nuclear bombs and dangerous weapons, you are dissing religion the same way. You may dis the religion with many examples, but the one you gave was just lame.

I know Christianity more than you, and I am not one anymore, and stop putting words in my mouth. I never used a line like " I am better and you are bad".

Seriously, you are a headache, I am not here to defend anything, I want to discuss it with the rest in a civilized way, if you can't, just fuck off!

Many people think that it's religion that is the cause of so many deaths and wars etc.. I think it's really humanity that has been the cause of so much violence . Humans naturally want something to follow , a guide . They need people or something to tell them what to do . Relgious books offer just that . It tells them what is right and what is wrong , and humans feel like they have direction , however , it's man's interpretation of religious books that have created so much hate in the world . The bible never says that christians should hate anyone , on the contrary , it says christians should actually love their counterparts . Yet you see so much hate some christians have for non-christian people .

Even before christianity humans would join tribes and fight each other for survival . Its not very different now , All religious groups fight each other because they think it's the only way of survival . It's the way we are and it's he way we are always going to be .
Same thoughts! Like I mentioned before, people love the division. Race, nationality, wealth, politics and religion are part of it too.

Evolution is fact. The rest of you non-believers are monkeys, shitting in your hands and tossing it at Obama bin Labia.
I would say it possibility, but I wouldn't rush and call it a fact!
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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That's a weak argument. Just like religious freaks dis science because of nuclear bombs and dangerous weapons, you are dissing religion the same way. You may dis the religion with many examples, but the one you gave was just lame.

I know Christianity more than you, and I am not one anymore, and stop putting words in my mouth. I never used a line like " I am better and you are bad".
Evolution is fact. Period.

If you would have been a true christian, you would have used that line a lot.
 

swag

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Sep 23, 2003
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I know, it's totally overrated.
:lol2: Over 60,000 deaths in the U.S. alone every year and between 20-40 million deaths worldwide in 1918 alone, and the Juventuz answer is: "Overrated!"

For a minute I thought I was in the Transfers thread. :p
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Agnostics, what ever.
Every human judges others. However, if anything, I don't think a lot of agnostics judge people on religion.

That said, the initial point of this whole discussion was that Snoop felt people could believe anything they want and that I was being a smartass if I thought people who didn't "believe" the theory of evolution were stupid.

WHICH THEY GODDAMN ARE!
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
Are you aware that you contradicted yourself many times hector? you are pointing your finger for what religious people do but you are no different than them. You told me it is not ok for someone to believe to whatever he wants when it comes to religion, then you say everyone is entitled to his own belief. SO WHAT IS YOUR POINT HECTOR! Do you hate yourself too?
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Are you aware that you contradicted yourself many times hector? you are pointing your finger for what religious people do but you are no different than them. You told me it is not ok for someone to believe to whatever he wants when it comes to religion, then you say everyone is entitled to his own belief. SO WHAT IS YOUR POINT HECTOR! Do you hate yourself too?
You are one ignorant... I suggest you start reading my posts.

Words such as "if" or "and" or "only if" do matter, snoop.

The bottom line of this discussion, which you have been trying to avoid ever since the beginning, is that creationism is simply not okay.
 
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