US Presidential Elections 2012 (2 Viewers)
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I think I have to remind you this is the nation that voted GWB twice into office or at least you know, the election was close enough for manipulating the votes in a state or two to do the job.
so, let me hear that "not foolish enough" argument again
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that and being set in one's rigid political views ... but, yeah you basically got it
so, let me hear that "not foolish enough" argument again
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that and being set in one's rigid political views ... but, yeah you basically got it
I think I have to remind you this is the nation that voted GWB twice into office or at least you know, the election was close enough for manipulating the votes in a state or two to do the job.
so, let me hear that "not foolish enough" argument again
so, let me hear that "not foolish enough" argument again
technically, I am a woman - just some years of surgeries away from it, that's all
That is some awesome logic. I can see your point, scarily.
OK, so the Bush tax cuts were all about bribing us with our own money so we could save our consumerist way of life from terrorism through more consumer spending. But I don't think that's the primary reason why anybody voted for him. It was likely rooted in social conservatism, wanting God to run your country, and being shit scared of terrorists.
That is some awesome logic. I can see your point, scarily.
That is some awesome logic. I can see your point, scarily.
How and in what way a certain presidential candidate managed to sway/manipulate the votes his way in a particular election is of no particular concern.
good enough then
well, that's what I was referring to when I mentioned the close enough part - one can steal an election that is close, not an election that has him 150+ electoral votes behind.
That election was close enough to get allegedly stolen only because the people were stupid enough and easily duped to make it as close, which should have never happened considering the obvious limitations of one of the candidates (disregarding any political convictions here - a clown is a clown, red or blue).
also, if shit like this happens, ultimately it's the people's fault for having their heads up their asses. And the fact that America - the self-proclaimed "best" democracy in the world - still goes by a 200+ year old constitution, which basically eliminates the vote of 50% of its people in the most important election (branding America as a democracy all of a sudden takes on a rather ironic meaning ... yeah I know the small print at the bottom says "republic") by counting the electoral and not the popular vote, is ultimately that same people's fault.
All in all, with the lack of official proof that GWB did steal the election(s) - I mean just about anyone knows there was something illegal going on there but those whose job it was to keep an eye on these things either just didn't wanna bother doing anything about proving it to keep America's self-perceived image intact in front of the world or simply didn't have enough proof - GWB and his campaign did play to the tune of people's gullibility in that regard too and again went as far as it allowed them to.
so, technically, there was a lot of illegal, unconstitutional, etc shit going on in that election ... practically, however, with no official proof of that and the election being so close (and "smart" voters wouldn't have made it that close in the first place) to tell any potential irregularities apart, it officially became constitutional as per the Supreme Court, in the end. On top of that GWB winning by electoral votes, was/is constitutional too ... undemocratic, but constitutional in the republic of the US.
Ultimately, this one is on the people's gullibility too. If a nation, as a whole, is gullible enough to happily continue living under the illusion of democracy, how hard could it really be to dress up a f-ing clown-monkey to sell that nation a bunch of candy-covered shit and ask it for its vote (again, enough votes for the ellection to be "stealable")? Well, obviously not that hard. And how hard could it be to do that not once but twice? Well, as history has taught us, even easier.
All in all, a nation decides it's own fate ... and the american nation has made one too many downright stupid decisions for me to believe it is not "so foolish as to believe that ruse anymore", as Greg so wishfully put it, hence my reply.
That election was close enough to get allegedly stolen only because the people were stupid enough and easily duped to make it as close, which should have never happened considering the obvious limitations of one of the candidates (disregarding any political convictions here - a clown is a clown, red or blue).
also, if shit like this happens, ultimately it's the people's fault for having their heads up their asses. And the fact that America - the self-proclaimed "best" democracy in the world - still goes by a 200+ year old constitution, which basically eliminates the vote of 50% of its people in the most important election (branding America as a democracy all of a sudden takes on a rather ironic meaning ... yeah I know the small print at the bottom says "republic"
) by counting the electoral and not the popular vote, is ultimately that same people's fault.All in all, with the lack of official proof that GWB did steal the election(s) - I mean just about anyone knows there was something illegal going on there but those whose job it was to keep an eye on these things either just didn't wanna bother doing anything about proving it to keep America's self-perceived image intact in front of the world or simply didn't have enough proof - GWB and his campaign did play to the tune of people's gullibility in that regard too and again went as far as it allowed them to.
so, technically, there was a lot of illegal, unconstitutional, etc shit going on in that election ... practically, however, with no official proof of that and the election being so close (and "smart" voters wouldn't have made it that close in the first place) to tell any potential irregularities apart, it officially became constitutional as per the Supreme Court, in the end. On top of that GWB winning by electoral votes, was/is constitutional too ... undemocratic, but constitutional in the republic of the US.
Ultimately, this one is on the people's gullibility too. If a nation, as a whole, is gullible enough to happily continue living under the illusion of democracy, how hard could it really be to dress up a f-ing clown-monkey to sell that nation a bunch of candy-covered shit and ask it for its vote (again, enough votes for the ellection to be "stealable")? Well, obviously not that hard. And how hard could it be to do that not once but twice? Well, as history has taught us, even easier.
All in all, a nation decides it's own fate ... and the american nation has made one too many downright stupid decisions for me to believe it is not "so foolish as to believe that ruse anymore", as Greg so wishfully put it, hence my reply.
well, that's what I was referring to when I mentioned the close enough part - one can steal an election that is close, not an election that has him 150+ electoral votes behind.
That election was close enough to get allegedly stolen only because the people were stupid enough and easily duped to make it as close, which should have never happened considering the obvious limitations of one of the candidates (disregarding any political convictions here - a clown is a clown, red or blue).
also, if shit like this happens, ultimately it's the people's fault for having their heads up their asses. And the fact that America - the self-proclaimed "best" democracy in the world - still goes by a 200+ year old constitution, which basically eliminates the vote of 50% of its people in the most important election (branding America as a democracy all of a sudden takes on a rather ironic meaning ... yeah I know the small print at the bottom says "republic") by counting the electoral and not the popular vote, is ultimately that same people's fault.
All in all, with the lack of official proof that GWB did steal the election(s) - I mean just about anyone knows there was something illegal going on there but those whose job it was to keep an eye on these things either just didn't wanna bother doing anything about proving it to keep America's self-perceived image intact in front of the world or simply didn't have enough proof - GWB and his campaign did play to the tune of people's gullibility in that regard too and again went as far as it allowed them to.
so, technically, there was a lot of illegal, unconstitutional, etc shit going on in that election ... practically, however, with no official proof of that and the election being so close (and "smart" voters wouldn't have made it that close in the first place) to tell any potential irregularities apart, it officially became constitutional as per the Supreme Court, in the end. On top of that GWB winning by electoral votes, was/is constitutional too ... undemocratic, but constitutional in the republic of the US.
Ultimately, this one is on the people's gullibility too. If a nation, as a whole, is gullible enough to happily continue living under the illusion of democracy, how hard could it really be to dress up a f-ing clown-monkey to sell that nation a bunch of candy-covered shit and ask it for its vote (again, enough votes for the ellection to be "stealable")? Well, obviously not that hard. And how hard could it be to do that not once but twice? Well, as history has taught us, even easier.
All in all, a nation decides it's own fate ... and the american nation has made one too many downright stupid decisions for me to believe it is not "so foolish as to believe that ruse anymore", as Greg so wishfully put it, hence my reply.
That election was close enough to get allegedly stolen only because the people were stupid enough and easily duped to make it as close, which should have never happened considering the obvious limitations of one of the candidates (disregarding any political convictions here - a clown is a clown, red or blue).
also, if shit like this happens, ultimately it's the people's fault for having their heads up their asses. And the fact that America - the self-proclaimed "best" democracy in the world - still goes by a 200+ year old constitution, which basically eliminates the vote of 50% of its people in the most important election (branding America as a democracy all of a sudden takes on a rather ironic meaning ... yeah I know the small print at the bottom says "republic"
) by counting the electoral and not the popular vote, is ultimately that same people's fault.All in all, with the lack of official proof that GWB did steal the election(s) - I mean just about anyone knows there was something illegal going on there but those whose job it was to keep an eye on these things either just didn't wanna bother doing anything about proving it to keep America's self-perceived image intact in front of the world or simply didn't have enough proof - GWB and his campaign did play to the tune of people's gullibility in that regard too and again went as far as it allowed them to.
so, technically, there was a lot of illegal, unconstitutional, etc shit going on in that election ... practically, however, with no official proof of that and the election being so close (and "smart" voters wouldn't have made it that close in the first place) to tell any potential irregularities apart, it officially became constitutional as per the Supreme Court, in the end. On top of that GWB winning by electoral votes, was/is constitutional too ... undemocratic, but constitutional in the republic of the US.
Ultimately, this one is on the people's gullibility too. If a nation, as a whole, is gullible enough to happily continue living under the illusion of democracy, how hard could it really be to dress up a f-ing clown-monkey to sell that nation a bunch of candy-covered shit and ask it for its vote (again, enough votes for the ellection to be "stealable")? Well, obviously not that hard. And how hard could it be to do that not once but twice? Well, as history has taught us, even easier.
All in all, a nation decides it's own fate ... and the american nation has made one too many downright stupid decisions for me to believe it is not "so foolish as to believe that ruse anymore", as Greg so wishfully put it, hence my reply.
dude you got a lot of time on your hand
gullible is definitely there and imo it is not such a bad thing, but the fact remains that for this election one would need to appeal to some 200 million very busy very different low-attention-span scattered over a 'continent' populace, and that my friend needs a lot a money, and very few could afford that kind of sponsoring and W was one of them. So in the end, at the risk of having a wasted vote(green party, libertarian...) a lot of people end up voting simply to not let the least desirable candidate in power as opposed to voicing their actual preference.
dude you got a lot of time on your hand gullible is definitely there and imo it is not such a bad thing, but the fact remains that for this election one would need to appeal to some 200 million very busy very different low-attention-span scattered over a 'continent' populace, and that my friend needs a lot a money, and very few could afford that kind of sponsoring and W was one of them. So in the end, at the risk of having a wasted vote(green party, libertarian...) a lot of people end up voting simply to not let the least desirable candidate in power as opposed to voicing their actual preference.
gullible is definitely there and imo it is not such a bad thing, but the fact remains that for this election one would need to appeal to some 200 million very busy very different low-attention-span scattered over a 'continent' populace, and that my friend needs a lot a money, and very few could afford that kind of sponsoring and W was one of them. So in the end, at the risk of having a wasted vote(green party, libertarian...) a lot of people end up voting simply to not let the least desirable candidate in power as opposed to voicing their actual preference.
dude you got a lot of time on your hand gullible is definitely there and imo it is not such a bad thing, but the fact remains that for this election one would need to appeal to some 200 million very busy very different low-attention-span scattered over a 'continent' populace, and that my friend needs a lot a money, and very few could afford that kind of sponsoring and W was one of them. So in the end, at the risk of having a wasted vote(green party, libertarian...) a lot of people end up voting simply to not let the least desirable candidate in power as opposed to voicing their actual preference.
gullible is definitely there and imo it is not such a bad thing, but the fact remains that for this election one would need to appeal to some 200 million very busy very different low-attention-span scattered over a 'continent' populace, and that my friend needs a lot a money, and very few could afford that kind of sponsoring and W was one of them. So in the end, at the risk of having a wasted vote(green party, libertarian...) a lot of people end up voting simply to not let the least desirable candidate in power as opposed to voicing their actual preference.
I don't disagree with what you are saying but that still doesn't cover the american people's asses when it came to choosing between Gore and Bush. I can understand if someone didn't find Gore the most engaging speaker of them all out there or that he was a democrat, but is that really a reason to put a freaking illiterate monkey in the oval office instead? So, again it comes down to gullibility-driven bad decision making ...
anyways, stop wasting your time here and go get that car