US Presidential Elections 2012 (35 Viewers)

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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But that's a lot of conservatives' answers to everything. Why stop with states? Why not just cut checks to each individual for $14.35 and we can decide ourselves? That should be even better, right? Just think of the amazing coordinated response we'd have to disasters in that case.

Idiots.

Actually, I am reading an article in the latest issue of The New Yorker that confirms something I've suspected all along: "The Voter-Fraud Myth":
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/10/29/121029fa_fact_mayer

I've noticed how vote-fraud measures have creeped on every ballot in so many states, and it's given me the alarming impression that some rash, coordinated conspiracy assault is on the voting system all of a sudden. I smelled bullcrap, and sure enough that's what some are saying.

Personally, I do find it a bit idiotic that there are people in this country with supposedly no ID whatsoever. That's brain-dead. But what bothers me is a recurring pattern in politics lately: if you can't beat them, presume conspiracy. Whether that's Obama's birth certificate or voting fraud or whatnot.

There's a cognitive dissonance in US politics where a lot people would rather believe a made-up fantasy of conspiracy than accept that their opinions or candidates aren't in the favorable majority.

:agree: most of us are in denial
 

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Oct 11, 2005
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But that's a lot of conservatives' answers to everything. Why stop with states? Why not just cut checks to each individual for $14.35 and we can decide ourselves? That should be even better, right? Just think of the amazing coordinated response we'd have to disasters in that case.

Idiots.

Actually, I am reading an article in the latest issue of The New Yorker that confirms something I've suspected all along: "The Voter-Fraud Myth":
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/10/29/121029fa_fact_mayer

I've noticed how vote-fraud measures have creeped on every ballot in so many states, and it's given me the alarming impression that some rash, coordinated conspiracy assault is on the voting system all of a sudden. I smelled bullcrap, and sure enough that's what some are saying.

Personally, I do find it a bit idiotic that there are people in this country with supposedly no ID whatsoever. That's brain-dead. But what bothers me is a recurring pattern in politics lately: if you can't beat them, presume conspiracy. Whether that's Obama's birth certificate or voting fraud or whatnot.

There's a cognitive dissonance in US politics where a lot people would rather believe a made-up fantasy of conspiracy than accept that their opinions or candidates aren't in the favorable majority.
Yeah, voter impersonation is retarded. If you get caught, you go to jail. If you don't get caught, your single fraudulent vote won't make a difference. The real voter fraud is the actions of those trying to implement voter fraud measures as a means to cull voter registration roles.

As for the i.d. thing. A lot of the elderly don't have photo ID because they're non-drivers and the states they live in (PA for example) don't require photos on the non-driving ID. And then in cities and what-not many people don't have driver's licenses (my cousin in NY didn't have one until she was 24 because she didn't have a car and didn't need one living in the city) because they don't drive. Legislatively, we aren't required to carry ID unless we're operating a motor vehicle. I don't mind requiring an ID to vote, but if you're going to implement something like that, you don't do it a month before a major election. U

One crazy thing is that there are no central offices for elections in most states. There is no is no Federal office that handles elections either. Stuff is done on local levels in a lot of cases, so in one district you have an electronic ballot and in another you could have a paper. In addition, ballot design and style can differ from district to district. How retarded is that stuff?
 

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Aug 27, 2008
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Yeah, voter impersonation is retarded. If you get caught, you go to jail. If you don't get caught, your single fraudulent vote won't make a difference. The real voter fraud is the actions of those trying to implement voter fraud measures as a means to cull voter registration roles.

As for the i.d. thing. A lot of the elderly don't have photo ID because they're non-drivers and the states they live in (PA for example) don't require photos on the non-driving ID. And then in cities and what-not many people don't have driver's licenses (my cousin in NY didn't have one until she was 24 because she didn't have a car and didn't need one living in the city) because they don't drive. Legislatively, we aren't required to carry ID unless we're operating a motor vehicle. I don't mind requiring an ID to vote, but if you're going to implement something like that, you don't do it a month before a major election. U

One crazy thing is that there are no central offices for elections in most states. There is no is no Federal office that handles elections either. Stuff is done on local levels in a lot of cases, so in one district you have an electronic ballot and in another you could have a paper. In addition, ballot design and style can differ from district to district. How retarded is that stuff?
There should only be one way of voting. Make everyone stand in line and raise hands...
 

Maddy

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who said i can afford it :D

i dabbled in m&a and commodity trading before, right now i m more on the tech solutions side, but a good chance i ll be a scuba instructor this time next year :p
Speedos wearing scuba instructor? :p

Asset Stripping you say? :D
 

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