Trezeguet out , Klose in ? (6 Viewers)

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Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
#81
Klose better than Treze???
c'mon brothers, be serious, self criticism is good, but lets not cross those limits,
we are speaking about finishers here, arent we?
we dont want to use Klose's capabilities as a forward, more than Treze's abilities and efficiency as a scorer,
we have a load of creative forwards,
we need a tall fast and strong guy (like Klose) with similar or better scoring abilities than Treze
and because the likes of Drogba,Henry and Etoo wont join us,
we should better keep our grip on Treze.
If Trezegoal insists he wonna go, thats it, we cant stop him, he served us well and prooved to be a good Juventino too, we should better buy a talented finisher with the same caracteristics as him, but younger than Klose,
an investment for the future but in an age that can already offer much more than Pallagoal.
Treze has a value in the worldwide football and Klose has another one, these things speak for themselves...

Klose is a valuable player, truly one of the best players of this medium quality German generation, but his age and price doesnt make him the wise choise,
if we are selling Treze for the cash, then why should we waste that cash
for a player that will last only a few more years?
we could keep Treze instead...

If Treze wants to leave, because he thinks we wont be competitive any more (probably if we wont invest some serious sums in the transfer period) , then why ol why Klose would join us then?
It has no sense...
 

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Ahmed

Principino
Sep 3, 2006
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#82
didnt Trez just get a pay raise to the same salary as ADP? I think all the press statements was just his agent trying to get more money for his client...Its ben seen many times b4...
 

Marc

Softcore Juventino
Jul 14, 2006
21,649
#85
Jeeks said:
After I heard that Del Piero is much better than Zidane, I started to expect anything here.
:rofl2:

No, seriously, I don´t understand why are people upset in having Klose.

The man is a goal-machine, Golden Boot, you don´t score 6 goals in World Cup if you are sh*t.

Obviously, we like Trez because he scored so many goals for us and stayed loyal, but I would seriously think about this move...

Andy said:
Yeah, it really makes a lot of sense.

And Thuram is still better than Gaetano Scirea.
:rofl2:
 

Jun-hide

Senior Member
Dec 16, 2002
2,068
#86
baggio said:
We should've never given away Mutu. As far as I can tell Trez is irreplaceable for our plans to be up on top again.
Spot on. Its all about credibility to the team. Selling top established players who have given their career to the team for talented but inferior German forward isnt the smartest thing to do. Even more so when the player you bringing in as a replacement has been frustratingly inconsistent in most part of his career. That spells possibly disaster when adjusting yourself into new league, new culture, new language and new food. And Klose isnt that young anymore who can have second chance if it doesnt initally work out.

Keeping Mutu would have been unfair for the player IMO. Del Piero would have still been in front of pecking order whether he deserves or not, and player of Mutu's calibre shouldnt be sitting on the bench. Bojinov hasnt proven anything in last 2 years but lets not forget he was sensational with Lecce couple of years back. The kid is a prodigy no doubt and I feel we got more skilled Sheva and less physique in our hands. Only time will tell though.
 

- vOnAm -

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Jul 22, 2004
3,779
#87
Klose for Trezeguet?
Hmm, interesting....

But I don't see a significant difference, Klose IMO could become a goal machine for us, but then again we already have it with Trez. Theres no age advantage either so I don't see the point, unless we are really looking for some cash to patch up the club.
 

Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,319
#88
Actually Klose is better than Trez as he is a goal scoring machine+ he has a good ball control something Trez lakes + He can also give some good passes and create oppurtunities for his team mates (he has a good vision) something that Trez also lakes. Trez on the other hand is better in one on one situations! when given the chance he won`t miss!

overall Klose is a bit better but why selling Trez to get Klose when a prodigy like Huntelaar is still up for grabs
I saw a clip of him and this guy could become the real thing!
I saw an Ibrahimovic technique+good finishing (I should say great finishing) maybe it was just rare as I haven`t seen him play apart from this clip, but if he does play like that WE MUST HAVE HIM!

as for the other spot in the attack for now it is Del Piero`s but I heard that Palladino was really good against Albinoleffe and if he is as good as I heard and keep playing like that maybe we have our DP`s successor
 

Jun-hide

Senior Member
Dec 16, 2002
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#89
From the games that I have seen Klose play, he is exact prototype player to Trezeguet. He doesnt get involved in the play enough because all of his movement is geared towards receiving that decisive through pass. Sure, he may pose more threat further down the pitch with his pace and thus preventing teams from pressing up down the field. But beside the little tactical extra variation Klose gives to his team than Trezeguet, his "other" assets of the game is marginal at best to consider him as a better player because Trez's track record as a striker is far superior than Klose in every respect. He scored more goals, better appearance/goal ratio, scoring at tougher level of competition, consistency etc. Klose is a clinical striker without any doubt. Trez is just simply an unbelievable goal-getter, and despite his deficiencies he is world class.
 

Marc

Softcore Juventino
Jul 14, 2006
21,649
#90
Jun-hide said:
From the games that I have seen Klose play, he is exact prototype player to Trezeguet. He doesnt get involved in the play enough because all of his movement is geared towards receiving that decisive through pass. Sure, he may pose more threat further down the pitch with his pace and thus preventing teams from pressing up down the field. But beside the little tactical extra variation Klose gives to his team than Trezeguet, his "other" assets of the game is marginal at best to consider him as a better player because Trez's track record as a striker is far superior than Klose in every respect. He scored more goals, better appearance/goal ratio, scoring at tougher level of competition, consistency etc. Klose is a clinical striker without any doubt. Trez is just simply an unbelievable goal-getter, and despite his deficiencies he is world class.
:blah: :D
 

Luftwaffles

Il terzo uomo
Dec 1, 2005
5,055
#91
Although the transfer talk is pure speculation, and nothing else, because both club and player have not elaborated on David's short to mid-term future, I have an overwhelming feeling that he will be leaving us.

Already there is gossip that both Manchester United and Olympic Lyonnais are ready to splash the cash. Quite frankly, I think that the board and Deschamps will sanction a move if that is the will of Trez. Then it's just a question of the fee. If it is Lyon which proves to be his ultimate destination, there should be a strong possibility of a player exchange, even a probability, given his quality.

He will be sadly missed for his goalscoring abilities and I have many happy memories. Not least that night in the San Siro in May 2005 which all but clinched the Scudetto heading home the acrobatic cross from our captain.

I see this morning in the Italian sports press that Deschamps is saying good things about Palladino, mentioning the plan to develop Juventus with a strong, powerful squad of young players. This can onnly be good for the future. That said we should still buy in the January window to make promotion an absolute certainty.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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#94
I would seriously like to see Klose score over 20 goals in Serie A, especially in the old Serie A. He has got to be the most hyped up and overrated player to lead the World Cup in goals.
 

sateeh

Day Walker
Jul 28, 2003
8,020
#96
Andy said:
I would seriously like to see Klose score over 20 goals in Serie A, especially in the old Serie A. He has got to be the most hyped up and overrated player to lead the World Cup in goals.
hyped up ? i dont think so.

He earnt those goals he scored in both world cups.

I wont say he will be great in serie A, as you and i dont know that. But he did well over the years for both club and country.

even though i highly regard him as a player, i would keep trezi over him anyday.
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
#97
Jun-hide said:
Keeping Mutu would have been unfair for the player IMO. Del Piero would have still been in front of pecking order whether he deserves or not, and player of Mutu's calibre shouldnt be sitting on the bench. Bojinov hasnt proven anything in last 2 years but lets not forget he was sensational with Lecce couple of years back. The kid is a prodigy no doubt and I feel we got more skilled Sheva and less physique in our hands. Only time will tell though.


Exactly i think this trade was good for Mutu,Bojinov,Fiorentina and Juve,
everybody obtained what they really wanted;

Mutu the chance to proove himself in serie A without wasting his best years on the bench,his happy and succesfull now.

Bojinov having a change to compete to a less competitive league where he can shine and grow much easier with less pressure, he desperately needed a chance in his football enviroment and he looks pleased with the current situation, he can learn more in our team and despite beeing a sub he is declared that he is pleased with the current situation too.

Fiorentina needed performance now, they were in a very delicate situation and they needed a starter/savior to guide them beyond this crisis situation, Mutu prooved to be the right choice, he fits the bill 100% he already has great contribution and they are very pleased on his performances.

And finally Juve needed a decent back up, as promising as Mutu but a much younger version of him, so he could last many years, up until we escape from this serie B adventure, use this league to gain further exp and have the patience and the years to wait our glorius captain to retire or quit the starting place spot, by the time Alex will retire Bojinov will be ready and still young enough to help us built the future Juve, thats what our managers said, they are very pleased with Bojinov's potential and DD although didnt use him much, is already convinced for his value and has future plans for him.
 

Alltagsheld

Senior Member
Oct 10, 2006
3,183
#98
Jun-hide said:
From the games that I have seen Klose play, he is exact prototype player to Trezeguet. He doesnt get involved in the play enough because all of his movement is geared towards receiving that decisive through pass. Sure, he may pose more threat further down the pitch with his pace and thus preventing teams from pressing up down the field.
Do you mean he is not getting involved in the play of his team? If you meant that, I only can tell you that you are absolutely wrong. Klose is often getting the ball from the midfield and passing the decisive pass himself. He's a playing attacker, not a waiting one and a good partner for any other world-class attacker.
 

Ahmed

Principino
Sep 3, 2006
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no1 is proven in serie A till they PLAY in it...I think Klose would be excellent at Juve...though I would rather see Trez stay...and honestly how hard can it be for Klose to score 25 goals when ADP, Nedved and Camo are there to give the killer passes...
 
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