Thuram has ended his career (5 Viewers)

Who is better?

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Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
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Dec 16, 2003
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Come on. Who didn't like him from day 1? You?
Juventus fans loved him until he started acting like a prick on the pitch.
The question should be, who liked him apart from the Bosnian, Swedish and the Croatian fans/ppl?

I remember very well and everyone was even discussing this issue on this forum that whenever he wasn't performing he was being whistled and booed by the fans. Could be because of Capello favored him and left Ale out for no reason? I don't know TBH but he was booed way too many times. Even Blasi wasn't that booed and whistled.

P.S, when I said day one I didn't mean when he just signed the papers, I meant his first year when he was playing and giving his show against smaller teams but chocking to the big ones.
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
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Dec 16, 2003
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Wait, are you really comparing Moggi to the likes of Zambrotta and such? WTF?
Depends how you look at it.

His point is that how you can accept someone speaking bad of the Club you support after playing for so many years and how you're hating on Moggi for the obvious things lets say he's done. Logically, If you want to defend one of them, it's pretty normal to defend the other. But If you're attacking Moggi for what he has done to the Club, Thuram in no way is different since he spoke bad about Juventus.


It's like you have these two thieves, one of them stole diamonds, jewels, cash from your house the other took his microwave only. But you'll defend the microwave thief because he didn't do that much of a harm.
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
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Dec 16, 2003
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i loved him, the entire first year. and then i was more pissed off at capello for always playing him when del piero was in better form
Del Piero was easily in better form and shape also when Zlatan first arrived. Capello was just not giving him too much playing time.

Comparing the time minutes both of them played. Del Piero was much more decent.
 

Stephan

Senior Member
Nov 9, 2005
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What does it matter anymore. Zlatan was what he was, DP was what he was. Its 2009 now, Zlatan is gone and DP starts every game. Besides i remember Trezeguet was injured for a long time and Zlatan-DP started together in that period.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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Depends how you look at it.

His point is that how you can accept someone speaking bad of the Club you support after playing for so many years and how you're hating on Moggi for the obvious things lets say he's done. Logically, If you want to defend one of them, it's pretty normal to defend the other. But If you're attacking Moggi for what he has done to the Club, Thuram in no way is different since he spoke bad about Juventus.


It's like you have these two thieves, one of them stole diamonds, jewels, cash from your house the other took his microwave only. But you'll defend the microwave thief because he didn't do that much of a harm.
It's certainly a fair question. Many people here hate Moggi's guts but he did love working for the club and acknowledges its greatness. Thuram and the like just go around bashing it, claiming it wasn't a good club, and discussing matters they probably have no idea about.

Thuram is like the football world's biggest hypocrite. If he truly knew the club was cheating, then he should have forced himself out quite a lot sooner. So he's just a lying, thieving cunt.
 

swag

L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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Come on. Who didn't like him from day 1? You?
Juventus fans loved him until he started acting like a prick on the pitch.
I knew his reputation coming in. And I didn't want "Cassanate Lite" at the squad either, and was fully expecting his own brand of Zlatanate. And when people still wanted Cassano to come after his arrival, I didn't know how Capello was going to have enough diapers to go around.

But his first season he performed and wasn't too much of a big dick about it. His second season he choked. A lot. So much so, I could say that we could have technically lost that Scudetto because of both his play and Capello's bone-headed insistence that we continue playing him as he kept hogging the ball, losing it, and taking ridiculous shots in front of goal that were downing flying birds.

Then his attitude came out and I saw what I douche he was being in the locker room. I wanted his ass out of the club before the end of the second season.
 

Martin

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2000
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It's certainly a fair question. Many people here hate Moggi's guts but he did love working for the club and acknowledges its greatness. Thuram and the like just go around bashing it, claiming it wasn't a good club, and discussing matters they probably have no idea about.

Thuram is like the football world's biggest hypocrite. If he truly knew the club was cheating, then he should have forced himself out quite a lot sooner. So he's just a lying, thieving cunt.
This is how I see it. We're in crisis, we need reinforcements. A guy like Thuram (let's say hypothetically, Diego) says sure I'll play for Juve. Fine, Diego turns out to be great, just what we needed. A few years later he leaves. The fans suddenly hate him. Oh you ungrateful mercenary, how could you yadayada. The thing is though, at the time Diego was signing that contract he took no vows to worship the club forever. What's more, if he were explicit about it and he said I have no intention of staying here a moment longer than to further my career, and you were a supporter of a club that desperately needed him, there's no doubt in my mind you would have struck that deal anyway.
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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i loved him, the entire first year. and then i was more pissed off at capello for always playing him when del piero was in better form
Exactly what i wanted to say. I think everyone (well...almost) loved him in his first year and everyone (again...almost) disliked him in his second year.

For 99% of the Juve fans it had to do only with the way he was playing, nothing else.
Some of the Swedes, ex-Yu and the Del Piero fan boys were in the other 1%.
 
Sep 1, 2002
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It's certainly a fair question. Many people here hate Moggi's guts but he did love working for the club and acknowledges its greatness. Thuram and the like just go around bashing it, claiming it wasn't a good club, and discussing matters they probably have no idea about.

Thuram is like the football world's biggest hypocrite. If he truly knew the club was cheating, then he should have forced himself out quite a lot sooner. So he's just a lying, thieving cunt.
Stupid boy.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,984
This is how I see it. We're in crisis, we need reinforcements. A guy like Thuram (let's say hypothetically, Diego) says sure I'll play for Juve. Fine, Diego turns out to be great, just what we needed. A few years later he leaves. The fans suddenly hate him. Oh you ungrateful mercenary, how could you yadayada. The thing is though, at the time Diego was signing that contract he took no vows to worship the club forever. What's more, if he were explicit about it and he said I have no intention of staying here a moment longer than to further my career, and you were a supporter of a club that desperately needed him, there's no doubt in my mind you would have struck that deal anyway.
You don't seem to get the point, Martin.
 

Martin

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2000
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I'm just not that bitter, Andy. Not everyone is out to screw you everytime. If Thuram says something about the club, big deal. Let he who is without sin and all that. Do I reserve the right to say, possibly even publicly, my honest opinion about my employer? Absolutely.
 

Martin

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2000
56,913
Btw this is just the way Thuram is. He doesn't like people telling him what to say. He spoke out about the racism issue, and we all liked him for that, didn't we? I bet his employer would rather he not stir up anything.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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I'm just not that bitter, Andy. Not everyone is out to screw you everytime. If Thuram says something about the club, big deal. Let he who is without sin and all that. Do I reserve the right to say, possibly even publicly, my honest opinion about my employer? Absolutely.
Okay, fine. Doesn't mean I can't bash the bastard either.

Agree to disagree.
 

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