Thiago "The Fired Fraud" Motta (187 Viewers)

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Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
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Such an Allegriesque win. Get dominated by minnows, rely on individual magic and good fortune to get the points.

But consider this theory: what if he really wants to play Angeball but then he realized he doesn’t have the players for it, and reverted to Jihadball out of pragmatism?

People criticize Ange and Amorim for a lack of pragmatism in sticking to their style despite clearly not having the players for it. Maybe Motta is an attacking coach at heart but has the wisdom to adapt based on his players
 

Robee

Senior Member
Jun 21, 2011
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Such an Allegriesque win. Get dominated by minnows, rely on individual magic and good fortune to get the points.

But consider this theory: what if he really wants to play Angeball but then he realized he doesn’t have the players for it, and reverted to Jihadball out of pragmatism?

People criticize Ange and Amorim for a lack of pragmatism in sticking to their style despite clearly not having the players for it. Maybe Motta is an attacking coach at heart but has the wisdom to adapt based on his players
Koop says hi.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
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Such an Allegriesque win. Get dominated by minnows, rely on individual magic and good fortune to get the points.

But consider this theory: what if he really wants to play Angeball but then he realized he doesn’t have the players for it, and reverted to Jihadball out of pragmatism?

People criticize Ange and Amorim for a lack of pragmatism in sticking to their style despite clearly not having the players for it. Maybe Motta is an attacking coach at heart but has the wisdom to adapt based on his players
Thank you for this post. I had such a good laugh.

Motta attacking coach? When, where?
Wisdom to adapt? Half a season is gone and he is using the same tactic and considers Koop key player, while we have won ≈40% of the games.
 

Gian

COME HOME MOGGI
Apr 12, 2009
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Firstly, who would you replace him? Additionally, due to the terms of the contract we have to pay him. Simply can't drive him out and say goodby! When signing a contract with a coach, the club is obliged to comply with the clauses of the contract, and this is a common practice in all professional clubs. In any case, if you fire the coach, you must pay his salary for the period specified in the contract. I don't think there is a clause in the contract that would allow the club to fire the coach even in the event of poor results without paying him unless the termination of contract is by mutual agreement.
I'd personally replace him Mancini who I think will accept the job instantly. Might be an unpopular choice but this team clearly lacks guidance, we look like a bunch of school kids out there. Silly mistakes, silly dribbles and costing us point left and right. I think Mancini can install some defensive solidity and scrape a top 4 or 5 spot.

Ideally we get Zidane or Xavi in the summer.

Second point, Motta is on 3.5 m per year in 3 years. That's what, 10.5 x 2 = 21 million? That is, if he decides to remain jobless for 3 years.

We just spend 40m on a 4th choice CB from Newcastle and a scrub that didn't even play professional footie a couple of years ago. I don't think this club will care about a 21 million loss. We're pissing away money like there's no tomorrow.

I personally think we want to do some proper HR branding and therefor don't sack our coaches midway, so we remain attractive. But I can't think of any elite club who would accept being out of the title race by round 5 after spending 200m+ plus
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
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I'd personally replace him Mancini who I think will accept the job instantly. Might be an unpopular choice but this team clearly lacks guidance, we look like a bunch of school kids out there. Silly mistakes, silly dribbles and costing us point left and right. I think Mancini can install some defensive solidity and scrape a top 4 or 5 spot.

Ideally we get Zidane or Xavi in the summer.

Second point, Motta is on 3.5 m per year in 3 years. That's what, 10.5 x 2 = 21 million? That is, if he decides to remain jobless for 3 years.

We just spend 40m on a 4th choice CB from Newcastle and a scrub that didn't even play professional footie a couple of years ago. I don't think this club will care about a 21 million loss. We're pissing away money like there's no tomorrow.

I personally think we want to do some proper HR branding and therefor don't sack our coaches midway, so we remain attractive. But I can't think of any elite club who would accept being out of the title race by round 5 after spending 200m+ plus
My man....Xavi?

Are you serious?
 

Gian

COME HOME MOGGI
Apr 12, 2009
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Sure, he has won a La Liga with Barcelona even though they went through a difficult period, developed young players and I think he's fit for the job.
We're not asking him to win CL. Just to win against the likes of Sassuolo, Como and Hellas
 

DAiDEViL

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Feb 21, 2015
64,572
Pirlo won the Coppa Italia and Supper Coppa. Id be surprised if Motta wins anything.
Pirlo also had a better squad though.

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Such an Allegriesque win. Get dominated by minnows, rely on individual magic and good fortune to get the points.

But consider this theory: what if he really wants to play Angeball but then he realized he doesn’t have the players for it, and reverted to Jihadball out of pragmatism?

People criticize Ange and Amorim for a lack of pragmatism in sticking to their style despite clearly not having the players for it. Maybe Motta is an attacking coach at heart but has the wisdom to adapt based on his players
Was he actually an attacking coach at Bologna though? Or isn't this just a myth, and he did play the same shit, with the main difference being that teams didn't park the bus against Bologna like they usually do against Juve, basically nullifying his tactics? And to what he so far has zero answers to, except for trying the same shit over and over again?

He's just as pragmatic as Allegri, maybe even more so imo.

Not the hipster coach I expected at all, but that's prolly on me, cause I'm an idiot.
 
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decfro

Junior Member
Jul 3, 2009
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Why is this club against sacking coaches midway? I know it’s not lo stilo Juve / Agnelli gentlemen’s code but Milan has sacked that Portuguese fraud and right now seem to do much better.

We all know Motta’s future. Just like we knew Ferrera’s, Delneri’s, Allegri’s and now Motta’s. Wht wait till the summer?
because juventus fans like abuse and pressure and anger and rage, won't happen because elkunt is a bozo that honestly doesn't care about this club, he may put on a fake facade and pump in money, but that's it ,he's soulless and would rather play criket or dress like lapo after stealing his clothes.He has bigger issues, like his mommy trying to take everything away from him in court.It really is a shame that the avocato's son committed suicide had he lived, this all might be very different and elkunt would be a minor footnote in juventus's history.
Moggi had football people with him, andrea's dad umberto knew that, elkunt doesn't really have a clue, look at our president.I truly believe this elkunt is an intermafia fan, supporting gravinter in getting him relected is just sick, crawling back after the superleague fiasco,knowing full well that will be paying for all this shit.Says he'll defend the club then backs down, useless elkunt, as much as you guys despise andrea, he had more balls than elkunt and lapo and his current team of twats today.Made mistakes sure but spoke up when he needed too.Elkunt is MIA, 100% of the time.Just sell the club please, but us out of our misery, once and for all I would like to see us win a champions league before I die.

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why does he not change formations, he can't be that much of a fuckwit can he?
 
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    Why is this club against sacking coaches midway? I know it’s not lo stilo Juve / Agnelli gentlemen’s code but Milan has sacked that Portuguese fraud and right now seem to do much better.

    We all know Motta’s future. Just like we knew Ferrera’s, Delneri’s, Allegri’s and now Motta’s. Wht wait till the summer?
    Probably the same reason why they don’t hire non paisans

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    Ironic how the best couch in the world is a paisan but has a short stint early in his career and a lifelong beef with this dumb club. AI couldn’t write a better plot
     
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    Lion

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    Jan 24, 2007
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    I personally think attack is the best defense. More so when your defenders aren’t very good at handling pressure of defensive tactics.

    But I’d be ok with defensive football if the results were there. If at least there was improvement month after month. But the footballl is bad and the results aren’t there and he refuses to try anything differentz
     
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    If the club and its fans afforded Al-legri 2 years of utter nonsense then TM deserves at least 1 contract term
     

    Scottish

    Zebrastreifenpferd
    Mar 13, 2011
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    Such an Allegriesque win. Get dominated by minnows, rely on individual magic and good fortune to get the points.

    But consider this theory: what if he really wants to play Angeball but then he realized he doesn’t have the players for it, and reverted to Jihadball out of pragmatism?

    People criticize Ange and Amorim for a lack of pragmatism in sticking to their style despite clearly not having the players for it. Maybe Motta is an attacking coach at heart but has the wisdom to adapt based on his players
    This isn't the main point of your post but the defining characteristic of Angeball isn't attacking football it's hard work and graft. It's about success through effort - making that the focal point of the team and being able to turn each game into a war of attrition which the opposition cannot hope to win.

    That's why I'd be excited to see him at Juventus. His ideas match our club ethos.

    Some of those ideas are similar to what we were told about Motta's ideas at Bologna with inverted fullbacks and so on, but what I saw at Celtic (never watched a Spurs game in my life that didn't also involve Juve or Celtic) was far more direct and there was far more running involved. He's never coming here anyway so it's moot.
     

    Gian

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    Apr 12, 2009
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    Motta’s previous Bologna side are only 6 points away from us after we invested 200m and sold its best players with Calafiori and Zirkzee.

    They’ve also played 2 games less.

    This whole concept of signing a coach because of his latest result is BS. It’s the reason we once hired Delneri who made it to 4th with Samp.

    We need to open our eyes, Motta just doesn’t cut it over here.
     
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