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Dostoevsky

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Dusan, which player would you prefer us to sign? Pastore? Kun? Hazard? Sanchez?...which do you think would most compliment our squad and why
First of all my priorities would be fullbacks. Once that is settled and we're guaranteed quality players I'd move for one of those mentioned.

IMO it should be Hazard since we don't have a proper left wing. He'd be great and he's worth every penny I think. Then again, seeing us play flat 4-4-2 I think there's no way we'd make a move for him. He'd be better in 4-3-3.

Now, bar Hazard, my priorities would be Aguero and in case he's unreachable I'd go for Sanchez. Those two players are amazing and they'd fit in perfectly in our system. Aguero or Sanchez would potentially take Del Piero's place and both would do damn good. Pastore is great too, don't get me wrong, but he'd be my last pick IF we're playing 4-4-2 of course.

In case Hazard comes, we could even play Giovinco as a SS and it would be great.

I've spoken with numerous people who follows The Eredivisie and they are all saying VDW is overhyped and overrated. They went as far as saying he is shit and Andreas Beck is much better.
I might be wrong, but every time I watched VDW play he was only decent, even at the WC I didn't see anything special about him. I didn't watch Beck that many times, but whenever I did he was pretty solid and IMO a better player than VDW.
 

Hust

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Word. We have wasted way too many chances to upgrade our squad it's unbelievable.

I'd welcome Edin here with arms open.
I know we dropped the ball on the Gygeras, Molinaro's and Motta's...but what perplexes me the most is knowing how aweful Amauri was, has been and will always be while selling Trezeguet and not having a much better backup plan when we realized Dzeko wasn't coming. Then came the Luca Toni...in defense we stayed stagnant, but in offense we went backwards up until we signed Matri.
 

Ken

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I've spoken with numerous people who follows The Eredivisie and they are all saying VDW is overhyped and overrated. They went as far as saying he is shit and Andreas Beck is much better.
He hasn't had a great year, that's for sure, even though I've only seen a few games myself, but it's obvious the quality is there. I was fairly disappointed the times I did see him, but I know how good he can be. In the last game of the season, against direct rival Twente, for example, he was excellent. With the right motivation and a change of scenery I think he'd be great for any team that snatches him up. What worries me a bit is that he doesn't seem too strong mentally and looks unmotivated at times.

People who say he's shit though, don't know what they're talking about. I've seen too few games of Beck to really compare them.
 

Klin

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I know we dropped the ball on the Gygeras, Molinaro's and Motta's...but what perplexes me the most is knowing how aweful Amauri was, has been and will always be while selling Trezeguet and not having a much better backup plan when we realized Dzeko wasn't coming. Then came the Luca Toni...in defense we stayed stagnant, but in offense we went backwards up until we signed Matri.
You have to thank Marotta for that Trezeguet saga.

See, that's the thing. Even if they were bad investments, at least we still invested in the attacking department. We haven't done so for defense since the first season in Serie A after Calciopoli, bar Bonucci.
 

Hust

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First of all my priorities would be fullbacks. Once that is settled and we're guaranteed quality players I'd move for one of those mentioned.

IMO it should be Hazard since we don't have a proper left wing. He'd be great and he's worth every penny I think. Then again, seeing us play flat 4-4-2 I think there's no way we'd make a move for him. He'd be better in 4-3-3.

Now, bar Hazard, my priorities would be Aguero and in case he's unreachable I'd go for Sanchez. Those two players are amazing and they'd fit in perfectly in our system. Aguero or Sanchez would potentially take Del Piero's place and both would do damn good. Pastore is great too, don't get me wrong, but he'd be my last pick IF we're playing 4-4-2 of course.

In case Hazard comes, we could even play Giovinco as a SS and it would be great.
So is it pretty understood that Conte is synonymous with a 442 then? If that is the case then I would totally go for Hazard for LM and Kun for SS...that would be so unreal. It is too bad that we can't use players that we have no for exchanges. Perhaps IQ/Sissoko/Tiago for a Kun deal...but I only see Lille excepting cash only from us which would be problematic. Which brings me to my next point...the other two of Pastore/Sanchez play in Italy so we don't use any non-EU spots on them anyways not to mention we have players that both clubs would like to have and that might help us a lot more than we think. Not just by bring in a quality player, but off loading some deadweight, saving some money in the process due to reasons just mention which would allow us to fix the first point you mentioned.

The good thing about signing Hazard is we can still sign a new shiny SS like Kun/Sanchez.
 

Hust

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See, that's the thing. Even if they were bad investments, at least we still invested in the attacking department. We haven't done so for defense since the first season in Serie A after Calciopoli, bar Bonucci.
True. I'd love to see us scout some youngsters to play LB/RB somewhere out of South America and use our non-EU spots on them for some nice prices...then splurge on 1 or 2 WC players.
 

Flamez

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If we just look at names, Aguero will definitely be the best choice. We should be looking for a team, though, and there Hazard is the better option.

1. Versatible.
2. Huge potential, just like the others.
3. Cheaper than the other options (would allow us to look at our FBs).
4. Better to get a player who can perform on the left wing (where we dont have any options) than a SS or a trequartista where we have good options in Quaglia and Giovinco (plus, Hazard can also play as a trequartista or a SS since hes versatible).

Hazard + Cissokho > Aguero
 

Ken

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You have to thank Marotta for that Trezeguet saga.

See, that's the thing. Even if they were bad investments, at least we still invested in the attacking department. We haven't done so for defense since the first season in Serie A after Calciopoli, bar Bonucci.
We did get a few players on loan, with options to buy, and we signed Sorensen. ( right? )

The problem is we never seem to aim high when looking at defenders. It's like we barely focus on it, and when we do, we aim to spend as little money as humanly possible, meaning we end up with crappy players on loan or average transfer-free players. That's exactly the direction we're going again this summer.
 

Klin

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True. I'd love to see us scout some youngsters to play LB/RB somewhere out of South America and use our non-EU spots on them for some nice prices...then splurge on 1 or 2 WC players.
That should have been our transfer motto since day 1 post Calciopoli. Too bad we're stuck with these noobs running the club.
 

Klin

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We did get a few players on loan, with options to buy, and we signed Sorensen. ( right? )

The problem is we never seem to aim high when looking at defenders. It's like we barely focus on it, and when we do, we aim to spend as little money as humanly possible, meaning we end up with crappy players on loan or average transfer-free players. That's exactly the direction we're going again this summer.
You know what I meant, Ken. I wouldn't call the likes of Grygera, Molinaro, Barzagli, Motta, etc. proper investments when the club went for the easiest and cheapest way to get them.

Sørensen was a great find indeed.
 

Ken

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You know what I meant, Ken. I wouldn't call the likes of Grygera, Molinaro, Barzagli, Motta, etc. proper investments when the club went for the easiest and cheapest way to get them.

Sørensen was a great find indeed.
Yeah, I know what you mean. It just seemed like you were saying we didn't do anything at the back, when I was trying to say we've been very wasteful when it comes to signings/loans at the back aswell. We just didn't aim for quality in almost every position we were looking to improve, which is why we never get anywhere.

It's very frustrating and especially after seeing how truly terrible our back line is, it's very disappointing we don't seem very active on that front again.
 

Flamez

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Just hope for Ancelotti then...

I am sure he would demand Pastore as the big guy (Chelsea were to choose between him and Kaka). Maybe with him, we could even get two big signings, like Pastore and Aguero. :xfinger: :tuttosport:
 
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