The Wish List and General Discussion Thread (36 Viewers)

[Hust]

Exactly. Pastore & Hazard Pastore Raped us this season

yeah he did...we still can't get our hands untied from around our ankles.

Just hope for Ancelotti then...

I am sure he would demand Pastore as the big guy (Chelsea were to choose between him and Kaka). Maybe with him, we could even get two big signings, like Pastore and Aguero. :xfinger:

We aren't even linked to Carlo, are we?

Did I miss something this morning?

 

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[Ken]

Mark threw Ancelotti's name in the mix earlier, saying there's a tiny chance we'll go for him, or something along those lines.

 

[Hust]

Mark threw Ancelotti's name in the mix earlier, saying there's a tiny chance we'll go for him, or something along those lines.

hmmm...interesting.

Mark "the mind game" Guru.

 

[Hust]

Melo "the Copy 'n' Paste" Guru.

 

[Flamez]

We aren't even linked to Carlo, are we?

Did I miss something this morning?

He is most probably leaving Chelsea and some gurus on VS said we can still have a little chance on him. Add to that Pirlos arrival, Pastores rumours and that sick rumour about the curva and the new coach and BOOM!

At least we can still hope for a day or two.

 

[alvin_89er]

yeah he did...we still can't get our hands untied from around our ankles.

 

[Hust]

He is most probably leaving Chelsea and some gurus on VS said we can still have a little chance on him. Add to that Pirlos arrival, Pastores rumours and that sick rumour about the curva and the new coach and BOOM!

At least we can still hope for a day or two.

What sick rumor about the curva?

 

[Nenz]

Even if Aguero or Pastore were to come I don't think that it would have a huge impact on our season. Our problem has never been scoring, its been conceding so how does buying Pirlo, Aguero and Bastos go to fix that problem? Ziegler and Beck will really not improve our defense to the level we'll need to get CL next year. I agree that we do need a world class player up front but considering we have better players in attack then we do defense at the moment (as statistics clearly demonstrate) you would think it was obvious what we need to do first.

 

[Hust]

Even if Aguero or Pastore were to come I don't think that it would have a huge impact on our season. Our problem has never been scoring, its been conceding so how does buying Pirlo, Aguero and Bastos go to fix that problem? Ziegler and Beck will really not improve our defense to the level we'll need to get CL next year. I agree that we do need a world class player up front but considering we have better players in attack then we do defense at the moment (as statistics clearly demonstrate) you would think it was obvious what we need to do first.

Don't agree. Our offense hasn't been able to score consistently for a while now. Just look at how often our midfield has had to score and bail us out and when they failed...our defenders have had to score.

I know we concede and that's a major problem I agree...I don't agree that our offense has always been able to score.

 

[electricRoo]

People are knee jerking about the fullbacks so much. We really don't need incredible fullbacks to get back to the CL, we need capable fullbacks that can defend and send a good cross, that's it. Ziegler and Beck can do that very well so I'm more than ok with that if that's what we end up with.

I don't see the need to spend 15 or 20 million on each fullback when we can use that money to bring in a great left winger and a SS. Hell, I'd say we need a high profile signing just to make a statement to the market, to the media and on the pitch.

 

[Hust]

People are knee jerking about the fullbacks so much. We really don't need incredible fullbacks to get back to the CL, we need capable fullbacks that can defend and send a good cross, that's it. Ziegler and Beck can do that very well so I'm more than ok with that if that's what we end up with.

I don't see the need to spend 15 or 20 million on each fullback when we can use that money to bring in a great left winger and a SS. Hell, I'd say we need a high profile signing just to make a statement to the market, to the media and on the pitch.

I like the way you think.

 

[Ken]

That may well be true, but I think it's just the general view people have about improving positions and doing it right. Far too often have we seen slight improvements or players we thought would improve certain positions who simply haven't, because we went for an easy and cheap option. Fullbacks have been a major issue and people want those positions fixed properly.

It's definitely true that the main goal is to get capable FBs in the first place, so we don't leak goals, they don't have to be Maicon and Evra.

 

[Nenz]

Don't agree. Our offense hasn't been able to score consistently for a while now. Just look at how often our midfield has had to score and bail us out and when they failed...our defenders have had to score.

I know we concede and that's a major problem I agree...I don't agree that our offense has always been able to score.

Probably true but we've had more injuries in our forward group then anywhere else. Our defense wasn't completely healthy all season either but I would say that our defense has A LOT more to answer for than our attack. The team would improve much more as a whole with world class acquisitions in the fullback positions and the left wing position than it would with a 40M euro striker, Zeigler, Beck and Bastos.

Remember, we stopped scoring with Quags injury and started again with Matri's acquisition. We're covered in attack with those two players IMO we're not covered in defense with our current players or our projected buys this summer.

 

[Nenz]

People are knee jerking about the fullbacks so much. We really don't need incredible fullbacks to get back to the CL, we need capable fullbacks that can defend and send a good cross, that's it. Ziegler and Beck can do that very well so I'm more than ok with that if that's what we end up with.

I don't see the need to spend 15 or 20 million on each fullback when we can use that money to bring in a great left winger and a SS. Hell, I'd say we need a high profile signing just to make a statement to the market, to the media and on the pitch.

Fullbacks who can do that very well are called world class players, Ziegler and Beck are not world class because they don't do those things very well. Its very simple. You're clearly over rating those players and under rating the importance of having competent fullbacks.

I remember making a statement with Diego and look what happened there. Who cares about the markets perceptions of us? Make a statement with team results not individual brilliance.

 

[Hust]

Probably true but we've had more injuries in our forward group then anywhere else. Our defense wasn't completely healthy all season either but I would say that our defense has A LOT more to answer for than our attack. The team would improve much more as a whole with world class acquisitions in the fullback positions and the left wing position than it would with a 40M euro striker, Zeigler, Beck and Bastos.

Remember, we stopped scoring with Quags injury and started again with Matri's acquisition. We're covered in attack with those two players IMO we're not covered in defense with our current players or our projected buys this summer.

A big part of our defensive woes needs to fall on DN for sure. His constant starting Motta/Grygera all season long instead of a better performing Sorensen is just criminal. Granted we would still leak some goals but we would have been better off on the right side if Sorensen would have just kept a starting spot. Not to mention the injury to DC pretty much crippled our LB area.

No way will we win anything or come close to achieving anything with Quag/Matri together. Matri should stay and have a WC AM behind him or SS beside him. Don't forget we need to get the top 3 now next year and every team ahead of us will be getting better players this summer.

We need to go big in attack and just get 2 FB's that can defend. IF our offense is strong then our FBs only need to be strong defensively.

 

[Suns]

Krasic - Marchisio - Melo - Ribery

Matri - Aguero

Pirlo on the bench, no need for his creativity when you have Aguero, Ribery and Krasic. Also, Pirlo's defense doesn't suit a 4-4-2.

Problem is that Ribery makes like 8m a year or something but I don't think Bayern would play hardball like they did just a few years back and a sneaky bid of around 20m could convince them to sell.

 

[Nenz]

A big part of our defensive woes needs to fall on DN for sure. His constant starting Motta/Grygera all season long instead of a better performing Sorensen is just criminal. Granted we would still leak some goals but we would have been better off on the right side if Sorensen would have just kept a starting spot. Not to mention the injury to DC pretty much crippled our LB area.

No way will we win anything or come close to achieving anything with Quag/Matri together. Matri should stay and have a WC AM behind him or SS beside him. Don't forget we need to get the top 3 now next year and every team ahead of us will be getting better players this summer.

We need to go big in attack and just get 2 FB's that can defend. IF our offense is strong then our FBs only need to be strong defensively.

Sorenson and DC are better but still really not good enough. Sorenson is definitely a talent but is also mistake prone just like young Caceras. DC is highly over rated on here after a few good performances just before he got injured. Those positions were already crippled even when those players were healthy.

I'm not saying that a Matri - Quag partnership is Scudetto winning but considering how many goals they both scored in a team with no attacking mid behind them compounded with the fact that we had no left wing to service them they both did rather well and would probably complement each other. Give them great fullbacks and a left wing and they will certainly score even more goals and we would certainly concede much less. In simple terms - we'd win more games.

We would probably win more games as well with Aguero/Pastore, Ziegler, Beck and Bastos in the side. I don't think we would do as well though and its a very short sighted approach to buy a crowd pleaser rather then attend to the biggest deficiencies in our squad.

 

[Hust]

Watching Pastore play against Chievo now. :dazed:

 

[alvin_89er]

Krasic - Marchisio - Melo - Ribery

Matri - Aguero

Pirlo on the bench, no need for his creativity when you have Aguero, Ribery and Krasic. Also, Pirlo's defense doesn't suit a 4-4-2.

Problem is that Ribery makes like 8m a year or something but I don't think Bayern would play hardball like they did just a few years back and a sneaky bid of around 20m could convince them to sell.

Kun & Ribery

 

[Juve_Kosova]

Watching Pastore play against Chievo now. :dazed:

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