The truth about Beijing Olympics (9 Viewers)

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L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
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you know why "western" countries are better? because a muslim has the same rights here as he does in the middle east, while god forbit a non-muslim should live there
Score one for DB.

If I was a Muslim, I could live in the West, having to look over my shoulder at the backwards types and the ignorants who might cause me harm.

But in China, I could very likely be imprisoned and persecuted for my practices alone -- and by the official government, not just a bunch of backward yokel locals.

Institutionalizing that kind of oppression is what makes it worse for a Muslim in China.
 
Apr 12, 2004
77,165
darfur?
if there is really something ugly going on, I believe the UN will do something about that. But until now, I see nothing.
Are you retarded?
ok, i think thats enough. one more word on this and youre banned. and my avatar stays. fucking brilliant flag, that
You can't ban him for that, he didn't do anything wrong.
by a measure of GDP china is way way way way behind, but let's not make it so complicated. Just answer, which of the three officially allowed colours for a shirt did you pick to wear today?
You are joking, right?
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,107
darfur?
if there is really something ugly going on, I believe the UN will do something about that. But until now, I see nothing.
Well of course you're going to say that, right? Your government pays the Sudanese government and their militias to keep the genocide going so that PetroChina can rob them of their oil.

But yeah, your wonderful government doesn't tell you that, do they.

Time to WAKE UP, Mr. "Great One."
 
Jan 7, 2004
29,704
According to Fox News, yes.

not just fox news, although i wouldn't know seeing as how all i watch from that channel is clips chosen by the daily show and colbert report

the reason, and like greg said (i'll not use the big word he did, to make sure you understand) is that according to the LAW you cannot discriminate on someone on the basis of religion, among other things.

if i dont want to, i dont have to get taught religion in a public school and if i so choose i can pay to have my kid taught in a religious school of my choosing. and yes canada had the debate regarding faith-based public schools and yes most of the provinces finance only catholic ones, but that is because of historical significance and not because the government sponsoring the religion. and the numbers were punched, it didnt make financial sense to finance separate schools for all religions.
 

AlexTheGreat

Senior Member
May 10, 2006
999
Well of course you're going to say that, right? Your government pays the Sudanese government and their militias to keep the genocide going so that PetroChina can rob them of their oil.

But yeah, your wonderful government doesn't tell you that, do they.

Time to WAKE UP, Mr. "Great One."
according to this, my government must pay a lot to the UN to shut their mouth up, am I right or am I right?

a genocide? I dont buy it as I dont believe the US came a long way to Iraq just to demonstrate democracy

its all about oil, isnt it? come on, uncle sam, you got iraq and I got Sudan, dont act like a jealous bitch, its a fair game
 

AlexTheGreat

Senior Member
May 10, 2006
999
As much as China has clearly "liberated" Tibet in the way that European settlers "liberated" Native Americans, most of the Hollywood dufuses who support the "Free Tibet" cause have no clue that before 1959, 90% of Tibetans were lower-than-dirt serfs who got trampled on by an elite class.

Fact is that the Tibetans are not unlike the Vietnamese: they've been f*cked over by their own kind and by that of their neighbors for centuries, each claiming to do so in the best interests of the Tibetan people.
fair enough

The fact is before 1959, dalai lama was the biggest slaveholder in tibet and the land was ruled by a theocracy system which is despised by everyone in all western countries right now, and thats the main reason why US launched a war against Afganstan as well.

those who shouted "free tibet" just have no idea whats really going on on this land. there is no options but option for those tibetans to chose how to live their lives. CCP or Dalai Lama, dictatorship(alleged) or slavery, they both are not good options but unfortunatly you have to pick one from them, and obviously there is nothing worse than slavery.

so, my opinion, before someone say "free tibet", they must think carefully the consequence of a "free" tibet will bring.

if someone who really wants to help the tibetans, here is the way, I beg u, come to tibet and teach those people to think what is really good for them
 

AlexTheGreat

Senior Member
May 10, 2006
999
he know the US fucked up in Iraq, nice to see you admitting that China fucked up in Sudan

look up the term civil disobedience
everybody in China knows that things are not always nice in sudan, we are not that naive as you think, dont forget the Chinese are born schemers, but as long as the US and his accomplices could live with what they did in Iraq, so we can
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,107
according to this, my government must pay a lot to the UN to shut their mouth up, am I right or am I right?

a genocide? I dont buy it as I dont believe the US came a long way to Iraq just to demonstrate democracy

its all about oil, isnt it? come on, uncle sam, you got iraq and I got Sudan, dont act like a jealous bitch, its a fair game
I know full well Iraq was all about oil, and in no way do I condone such an action. But the difference here is simple - China funds genocide.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,107
everybody in China knows that things are not always nice in sudan, we are not that naive as you think, dont forget the Chinese are born schemers, but as long as the US and his accomplices could live with what they did in Iraq, so we can
If the American people knew the truth about the War as I do, they would NOT condone the actions of this horrendous administration we have here in the States. Are you telling me that you're condoning PetroChina's actions in Sudan? Because it certainly looks like you're saying continue on with the genocide.

Perhaps the Chinese are even more brutal than I originally thought...
 

AlexTheGreat

Senior Member
May 10, 2006
999
I want to add something here about the media distorsion thing

many of you here might never admit that you are influenced by the media in your country, and you can alway hold a objective point of view to everything. the fact is you will be influenced before u realize that

here is the best example
how many of u read the articles on gazzata about calciopoli? how many of the articles wrote in other languages you have read mentioned about what role of morati and his merda team play in this farce? how many of u believe Juve deserve serie b for what they didnt do?

I still believe we won 29 Scudetto not 27, but ask around, who is with u except a true Juventino. everybody call us cheaters, should we blame Juve for this or should we blame the media who invent such farce at the first place?
 

Lucky Luke

Senior Member
Jul 23, 2007
6,218
I want to add something here about the media distorsion thing

many of you here might never admit that you are influenced by the media in your country, and you can alway hold a objective point of view to everything. the fact is you will be influenced before u realize that

here is the best example
how many of u read the articles on gazzata about calciopoli? how many of the articles wrote in other languages you have read mentioned about what role of morati and his merda team play in this farce? how many of u believe Juve deserve serie b for what they didnt do?

I still believe we won 29 Scudetto not 27, but ask around, who is with u except a true Juventino. everybody call us cheaters, should we blame Juve for this or should we blame the media who invent such farce at the first place?
couldnt agree with you more mate
iam feeling the same thing
no matter how strong well be in the future all the antijuventini or even the neutrals will call us cheaters and the relegation was fair.
there is nothing you can do except supporting juve with all your heart:)
 

AlexTheGreat

Senior Member
May 10, 2006
999
If the American people knew the truth about the War as I do, they would NOT condone the actions of this horrendous administration we have here in the States. Are you telling me that you're condoning PetroChina's actions in Sudan? Because it certainly looks like you're saying continue on with the genocide.

Perhaps the Chinese are even more brutal than I originally thought...
China may support a side which more proChina in Sudan to against the other one but there is not way we see a genocide happens and do nothing to stop it, there is a line and China would never cross it
 

AlexTheGreat

Senior Member
May 10, 2006
999
I want to add something here about the media distorsion thing

many of you here might never admit that you are influenced by the media in your country, and you can alway hold a objective point of view to everything. the fact is you will be influenced before u realize that

here is the best example
how many of u read the articles on gazzata about calciopoli? how many of the articles wrote in other languages you have read mentioned about what role of morati and his merda team play in this farce? how many of u believe Juve deserve serie b for what they didnt do?

I still believe we won 29 Scudetto not 27, but ask around, who is with u except a true Juventino. everybody call us cheaters, should we blame Juve for this or should we blame the media who invent such farce at the first place?
basicly the media just care about offer the majorities of what they want to hear. Juve had a doping history but luckly get out clean but this time he would not get away from this. Juve is bad! a role of evil have already been set for Juve before a trial, and most of people love it because there were always kinds of rumours or suspicion on Juve's victories for many years, and the media just prove they were right about that.

communism is evil, pla are murders, Chinese are poor and less educated bla bla.....these were what you people learn from your media for past 50 years, and most of them love it because it makes them feel better for living in a "much better free world". I dont see any difference in this issue between the fucked up italian sports media and the western media who is trying everything they can to bash my country, and I defend my country as I defend the reputation of Juve.

to the rest, you are not the only one who knows the truth. god bless gsol!
 

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