The Super League (38 Viewers)

[s4tch]

dunno whether it was posted already, i can't follow the thread when 10 new pages appear in a few hours. debt and corona losses are just some other reasons why many clubs think that the current format is unsustainable.

the richest clubs has been fighting uefa for more recognition of their contribution since the early 90's, and since uefa were unable to find an acceptable new format, super league is only the result of a natural progress. back in the '90s, some thought that the introduction of the group stage is unacceptable, some still think that cl should only accept the actual champions, some still miss the cup winners' cup, etc. so it's only expected that a completely new format won't be welcome by everyone. you can't please them all.

forza unibrow.

 

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[Akshen]

Perez will give an interview in Chiringuito today, they will talk about new league. Watch out for some more clarification, it should be shown at midnight.

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It will be aired on Twitch

 

[Mike-e-y]

And are we the ones who want to get kicked out of the domestic league? UEFA are determined with all their might and media connections to convince people this is 'the end of football' when they're the ones threatening to ban players from international football and pressing league associations to ban the elite clubs.

UEFA and FIFA are a cancer and both have ruined football over the past few years and continue to do so. It's about time the big clubs get together and use their power.

I don’t disagree FIFA & UEFA are corrupt money grabbing organisations. I want to see the back of them. But creating an elitist league is wrong on all levels. Success has to be earned and maintained - it’s not god given

Why not sporting? What interesting matches did Juve play this season? Only Barcelona in CL this season and that was where both teams would qualify, nothing at stake. And then out against Porto in March, literally nothing for Juve in CL this season.
In Serie A there was only Inter, and nothing else to look forward to. And by the time of 2nd leg the race's already over.

I have found none of our matches interesting for the last 2 years since we started appointing idiots to manage our team. I would similarly find SL matches full for the same reasons. Let’s not confuse matters.

It will level the playing field relative to other top clubs across Europe. But it will increase the gap between the big clubs and the small ones in each country.


in other words it will bring Juve, ATM, Milan, Inter etc... closer to each other's level. But the gap between Inter and Parma, ATM and Eibar will grow substantially. The big clubs will wield much stronger financial power that they should be able to hoover up all the talents from the smaller clubs.

And that’s exactly why I oppose it. If it was a system that had promotion and relegation I’d agree as it would reward well run clubs - this system just rewards clubs that have either been consistently successful or recently come into oil money

Yes we deserved to win it 9 times in a row because generally we were the best managed club but what is also true is FFP penalized Italian clubs further decreasing the ability of Italian teams to build stronger teams. And in typical hypocritical fashion, allowed the likes of PSG and City to go on an uncontrollable spending spree.
UEFA mismanaged this from the beginning. We happened to benefit from it in the league because we were in a healthier financial situation. FFP in hindsight was the final nail in the coffin for Serie A honestly.

Now this I agree with FFP is a joke and has been managed as such - but the problem with Italy is it hasn’t been able to gain oil money because of the bureaucracy around development of infrastructure. That doesn’t change here and if anything puts the Italian clubs in an even weaker position in that league

 

[kappa96]

JP Morgan to finance Super League
Football Italia

JP Morgan will finance the Super League, a spokesman confirmed.
“I can confirm that we are financing the deal but have no further comment at the moment,” a JP Morgan spokesman told Reuters.
On Sunday night, the Super League was announced by 12 elite European clubs, including Juventus, Inter and Milan.

The clubs announced the Super League would “provide significantly greater economic growth and support for European football via a long-term commitment to uncapped solidarity payments which will grow in line with league revenues.
“These solidarity payments will be substantially higher than those generated by the current European competition and are expected to be in excess of €10 billion during the course of the initial commitment period of the Clubs. In addition, the competition will be built on a sustainable financial foundation with all Founding Clubs signing up to a spending framework,” the statement continues.
“In exchange for their commitment, Founding Clubs will receive an amount of €3.5 billion solely to support their infrastructure investment plans and to offset the impact of the COVID pandemic.”
An emergency Lega Serie A meeting is ongoing and Inter, Juventus and Milan are attending it. Click here to get all the latest updates about the Super League.

 

[.zero]

dunno whether it was posted already, i can't follow the thread when 10 new pages appear in a few hours. debt and corona losses are just some other reasons why many clubs think that the current format is unsustainable.

the richest clubs has been fighting uefa for more recognition of their contribution since the early 90's, and since uefa were unable to find an acceptable new format, super league is only the result of a natural progress. back in the '90s, some thought that the introduction of the group stage is unacceptable, some still think that cl should only accept the actual champions, some still miss the cup winners' cup, etc. so it's only expected that a completely new format won't be welcome by everyone. you can't please them all.

forza unibrow.

i lob ju

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all the members oopposing the SL admitting that current system is broken but don't agree with innovation and believe UEFA can be reformed but don't want to "kill football" lol

can't have it both ways kids

 

[campionesidd]

Isn't that the definition of fewer? All top teams compete in the CL now. Not all top teams are currently subscribed to the SL at the moment.

Yeah, but it gets rid of scrub teams like Ferencvaros, BSC Young Boys and so on. Right now the CL group stage only a handful of watchable games. That won’t be the case with the Super League.

Domestic leagues will be completely destroyed though. Imagine having clubs that earn 300-400 million more per year than the others just by being in the Super league. And these clubs are already rich in terms of commercial sponsorships already.
It will be a three tiered league- SL teams will always take the top spots, then the CL/EL teams and then the rest.

 

[PhRoZeN]

 

[JCK]

Bayern and PSG joining Europa League for foreseeable future @DAiDEViL @BayernFan

Just to keep the tradition

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So they just walked in uninvited? Interupted the secret meeting other clubs held about excommunicating the big3?

Like a BAWSSS

 

[DS8_Montero]

That Ceferin the prick thinks Agnelli is an easy target because he was reckless enough to have said those words about small clubs, so he knows that many people already hate Agnelli and will easily buy this further negative narrative about him. What a thin straw he tries to grab and at what price . Hopeless.

 

[Ronn]

This guy really want to coach Bayern it seems

 

[Vlad]

I don’t disagree FIFA & UEFA are corrupt money grabbing organisations. I want to see the back of them. But creating an elitist league is wrong on all levels. Success has to be earned and maintained - it’s not god given

Or bought? Have we witnessed such outrage when somewhat irrelevant clubs, City, PSG and Chelsea started spending few hundred millions on transfers, while trying to buy their way into elite? Did anyone from Uefa governing body raised concern at how football landscape is rapidly changing, unnaturally, questioned legitimacy of said club's sponsorship agreements with parrent companies? Surely they have strived to preserve true values of sport and competition based on hard work, loyalty and sacrifice while scolding emerging oil clubs and imposing bans on their murky deals....

 

[GordoDeCentral]

This guy really want to coach Bayern it seems

It's always funny to hear millionaires trying to endear themselves to regular folks, yeah i am sure you joined liverpool because of their fans.

 

[Ronn]

It's always funny to hear millionaires trying to endear themselves to regular folks, yeah i am sure you joined liverpool because of their fans.

Former president made it even more popular.

 

[kappa96]

https://www.bavarianfootballworks.c...fa-fifa-psg-mancity?__twitter_impression=true

So it seems there is a precedent at the EU commission level.
It doesn't seem that Super League can be stopped, legally.
But I think the founding clubs already knew that.

In short


"Vestager concluded that threatening suspensions and bans served “to protect [ISU’s] own commercial interests and prevent others from setting up their own events.” The change should “open up new opportunities for athletes and competing organisers, to the benefit of all ice skating fans.”

The ruling is in line with a trend that views sports federations more like other corporations and less like legal cartels exempt from antitrust rules."

Instead of ISU you can insert UEFA Fifa.

 

[Xperd]

It's always funny to hear millionaires trying to endear themselves to regular folks, yeah i am sure you joined liverpool because of their fans.

Always the Good guys

Bundesliga fraternity for you

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Former president made it even more popular.

You just couldn't resist lol by the way, by endorsing agnelli and his controversial measure, you now know what it's like to be a trump supporter

 

[s4tch]

a friend of mine just sent me this. it's a ~3-year-old article, and it's an especially interesting read in light of the recent developments:
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...-european-football-infantino-champions-league

the highlighted sentence (i mean this: "Whatever you propose in football you will not be 100% backed.") is basically the last sentence of my previous post yeah, you can't please them all.

i also read an interesting article in hungarian. i'll try to back it with english sources; point is that the super league will propose a much more lucrative help for non-sl clubs compared to uefa: 10bn euros will be offered to grassroots funding for the 23 years, which is around 4 times what uefa currently spends on similar purposes.

and here is a really fun one too:


juve is still 4th (tied with city) on the uefa club rankings, but whatever.

 

[Al Birdie]

Or bought? Have we witnessed such outrage when somewhat irrelevant clubs, City, PSG and Chelsea started spending few hundred millions on transfers, while trying to buy their way into elite? Did anyone from Uefa governing body raised concern at how football landscape is rapidly changing, unnaturally, questioned legitimacy of said club's sponsorship agreements with parrent companies? Surely they have strived to preserve true values of sport and competition based on hard work, loyalty and sacrifice while scolding emerging oil clubs and imposing bans on their murky deals....

And THIS is the solution? Super league? The league into which you will for sure (!) be able to buy in with the club you've made yesterday as long as you have sweet sweet cash. Give me a fking break...

 

[.zero]

You just couldn't resist lol by the way, by endorsing agnelli and his controversial measure, you now know what it's like to be a trump supporter

Agnelli puncturing the hull of the UEFA boat and hopping into his yacht as UEFA sinks into the swamp lol

 

[Ronn]

You just couldn't resist lol by the way, by endorsing agnelli and his controversial measure, you now know what it's like to be a trump supporter

I just couldn’t lol. The joke was right there.
To some extent yes. To be honest my view of Trump supporters changed over the years even though the administration was a train wreck from the outset. I can’t imagine why people are against screwing this giant football monopoly.