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Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,055
And THIS is the solution? Super league? The league into which you will for sure (!) be able to buy in with the club you've made yesterday as long as you have sweet sweet cash. Give me a fking break...
Was pointing out the hypocrisy...

For Juve though it is inevitable if want to stay competitive at continental level. We will still be part of Serie A though.
 

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Fab Fragment

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Dec 22, 2018
4,099
I doubt that the FIGC will be as vehemently opposed to Juve, Inter and Milan joining the ESL as compared to UEFA. At least on the face of it, FIGC can't afford to piss off these 3. And if Roma join the SL, the FIGC might as well cease to exist.
 

DS8_Montero

Senior Member
Aug 10, 2018
985
Here's Football Economics 101 in a nutshell for those who are "fighting for justice" in the name of small clubs.

Top clubs, such as RM, MU, Juventus, take huge risk and invest a lot of money each year. Their expenses grow much faster than revenue because the entire system is managed by slow, obsolete, and corrupt structures such as UEFA.

All of those small clubs people are suddenly concerned about have been beneficiaries of this system for decades, and yet failed to outgrow their little pants because they were more than comfortable with the risk to return ratio they were granted by top clubs. They were making money they were satisfied with, while big clubs increased their debts and went all in. Yeah, that was so fair :lol:.

Everyone's beloved Atalanta get money from those who invested them, i.e. big clubs, and don't risk much. And yet they want to have a chance to grab the big prize which is that big not thanks to them but thanks to big clubs that invested billions in this industry. And now they are shitting on big clubs who quite rightfully rejected them.

All of those small clubs and their advocates either are hypocrites or just haven't figured out how this complex system really works yet.
 

Amer

Senior Member
Feb 13, 2005
11,340
All these pundits, players, coaches and fans talking shit about this new league are bunch of hypocrites. And UEFA is there today to teach us lessons and what is right or wrong. Give me a fucking brake. Biggest mafia since Cosa nostra.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,055
We'll care less for Serie A.

Much less. League will lose it's importance over time because we'll be too focused on Super League.
Idk. It wont change much for me. I will always follow Serie A as long as Juve is in it.

Our club will care less? I really dont think so, fans want trophies and what better way to make up for it after we get pummeled in SL. :)
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,771
We'll care less for Serie A.

Much less. League will lose it's importance over time because we'll be too focused on Super League.
i'll care about serie a just as equally as i do now. yeah, i'm old. for me, serie a is the ultimate price, and the true reward of the hard work. some may call it a farmer league, it's still a proper league, this season is the proof for that. cl is a lottery. you can't be fully prepared to win that.

but i'll welcome the additional funds to fight for a (hopefully) more prestigious price. and i also hope that the voice of reason somehow wins in berlusconistan aka italy, and they'll revert to a 18-team league asap. there are way too many meaningless games already.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,055
I doubt that the FIGC will be as vehemently opposed to Juve, Inter and Milan joining the ESL as compared to UEFA. At least on the face of it, FIGC can't afford to piss off these 3. And if Roma join the SL, the FIGC might as well cease to exist.
In the end Uefa will just fold. They absolutely have no leverage in this. 'We will ban your players for partaking in NT. ' Big clubs have complained for ages over too many irrelevant NT games and consequently more injuries. And what does Uefa do to appease them? Create a League of nations...Cretins
 

Fab Fragment

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Dec 22, 2018
4,099
Already FIFA is being cautious with their rhetoric. There is no way that Qatar is going to allow UEFA (BEIN sport will just have to get over it) to get in the way of their World Cup. Who wants to watch a WC without star names. Might as well send the Olympic football teams.
 

Dostoevsky

Tzu
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May 27, 2007
89,023
Idk. It wont change much for me. I will always follow Serie A as long as Juve is in it.

Our club will care less? I really dont think so, fans want trophies and what better way to make up for it after we get pummeled in SL. :)
i'll care about serie a just as equally as i do now. yeah, i'm old. for me, serie a is the ultimate price, and the true reward of the hard work. some may call it a farmer league, it's still a proper league, this season is the proof for that. cl is a lottery. you can't be fully prepared to win that.

but i'll welcome the additional funds to fight for a (hopefully) more prestigious price. and i also hope that the voice of reason somehow wins in berlusconistan aka italy, and they'll revert to a 18-team league asap. there are way too many meaningless games already.
Fans will care but I don't think club will care as much simply because main goal will be to do well in SL. I think plenty of teams, Juve included, will use bench a lot more often and it will be used for Serie A surely, so we rest players for the big competition which will drain a whole lot more energy than Champions League imo.
 

MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
12,850
Here's Football Economics 101 in a nutshell for those who are "fighting for justice" in the name of small clubs.

Top clubs, such as RM, MU, Juventus, take huge risk and invest a lot of money each year. Their expenses grow much faster than revenue because the entire system is managed by slow, obsolete, and corrupt structures such as UEFA.

All of those small clubs people are suddenly concerned about have been beneficiaries of this system for decades, and yet failed to outgrow their little pants because they were more than comfortable with the risk to return ratio they were granted by top clubs. They were making money they were satisfied with, while big clubs increased their debts and went all in. Yeah, that was so fair :lol:.

Everyone's beloved Atalanta get money from those who invested them, i.e. big clubs, and don't risk much. And yet they want to have a chance to grab the big prize which is that big not thanks to them but thanks to big clubs that invested billions in this industry. And now they are shitting on big clubs who quite rightfully rejected them.

All of those small clubs and their advocates either are hypocrites or just haven't figured out how this complex system really works yet.
That's a fair point. But you have to also take into account the limitations that small clubs face just from being in sparsely populated cities. They can't generate huge gate revenue, they can't generate huge commercial sponsorships. They can't even get players to stay in their shitty town once the player is good.

It's not just a matter of being risk averse.
 

Mike-e-y

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2004
11,188
Or bought? Have we witnessed such outrage when somewhat irrelevant clubs, City, PSG and Chelsea started spending few hundred millions on transfers, while trying to buy their way into elite? Did anyone from Uefa governing body raised concern at how football landscape is rapidly changing, unnaturally, questioned legitimacy of said club's sponsorship agreements with parrent companies? Surely they have strived to preserve true values of sport and competition based on hard work, loyalty and sacrifice while scolding emerging oil clubs and imposing bans on their murky deals....
So you are saying two wrongs make a right?
 
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