The Political Compass (2 Viewers)

Raz

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Nov 20, 2005
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#81
It depends where you are. I think sooner or later the right movement in Europe will fail.
True, here in lithuania, our dumb politics are trying to copy the american style as much as they can. It's good when you live in such country as Sweden :D here we just copy America and lick EU butt.
 

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JCK

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May 11, 2004
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#82
True, here in lithuania, our dumb politics are trying to copy the american style as much as they can. It's good when you live in such country as Sweden :D here we just copy America and lick EU butt.
I don't really like the politics of the running government, they are doing well on the economics of the country but I don't think their plans are too much long term. We are run by a right wing government but still the right wing of Sweden is considered to the left of say France's left wing.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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#83
Yeah that question is tough one, however, allowing something like (which admitelly has logic behind it) would also make you question your answer to other question the test asked "what happens in a bedroom between two consenting adults should not concern the government" which I'm pretty sure we all strongly agreed with.

I'm not fond of the idea of handing that much power to the state, regardless of how beneficial the hypothetical situation could be.
You're saying this to someone who believes that a centrally planned economy is a good idea. :rolleyes:

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let's meet up to discuss stuff :D

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Theres quite ogvious trend that while most of us differ on how the powers should limit our freedoms, most of us are on not on the capitalist wagon. It feels nice to see this.
I think that has a lot to do with the current economic crisis, a lot of people have lost faith with the capitalist system and rightfully so. Just to make my position clear on this, i am completely against capitalism, but if the choice was an "either or"(which it isn't i know) between both ends of the spectrum (ie, communism vs capitalism) i think there is no doubt that the latter has proven to be the more effective system.
 

Raz

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Nov 20, 2005
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#84
I think that has a lot to do with the current economic crisis, a lot of people have lost faith with the capitalist system and rightfully so. Just to make my position clear on this, i am completely against capitalism, but if the choice was an "either or"(which it isn't i know) between both ends of the spectrum (ie, communism vs capitalism) i think there is no doubt that the latter has proven to be the more effective system.
As with anything extremes are a very bad choice whatever they be. There needs to be a balance and the optimum is somewhere in between, I just think that this optimum is nowhere near capitalist end. At least for the majority of people.
 
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Nzoric

Nzoric

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Jan 16, 2011
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    It depends where you are. I think sooner or later the right movement in Europe will fail.
    sooner or later. just doesn't look like it now, with all the progress they are making in terms of voters.

    fred: i didn't say a centrally planned economy is a good idea, i just think there are alot of positives to be taken from a one-party system.
     

    Fred

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    Oct 2, 2003
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    sooner or later. just doesn't look like it now, with all the progress they are making in terms of voters.

    fred: i didn't say a centrally planned economy is a good idea, i just think there are alot of positives to be taken from a one-party system.
    You defended communism, you disagreed when i said it was a failed system and implied that it wasn't given enough of a chance. Which means you believe a centrally planned economy could work in the long term, does it not?

    I wasn't referring to your point on a one party system at all, but now that you bring it up, i have to say, a one party system's disadvantages far outweigh its "advantages", even the advantages you claim it has, probably have no basis in reality and only sound possible in theory.

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    As with anything extremes are a very bad choice whatever they be. There needs to be a balance and the optimum is somewhere in between, I just think that this optimum is nowhere near capitalist end. At least for the majority of people.
    so what? its nearer to communism's end? :rolleyes:
     

    Alen

    Ѕenior Аdmin
    Apr 2, 2007
    53,998
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    Bah, I'm boring and harmless, just like the most of you


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    Hængebøffer

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    Jun 4, 2009
    25,185
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    Here's my take.

    When you "know" your child is going to have serious disabilities, it'd be mighty selfish to go on & bring her/him into this world.
    And it's not about mommy or daddy not being allowed to raise or have kids (adoption, anyone?), it's about thinking ahead what kind of life that child will have. And the question did state "serious" disabilities.

    Somewhat related: a week ago or so I was reading some interesting stuff about how many children are born (in Belgium - 100s a year) with disabilities, disfigurements, serious growth issues, etc because of the mother having recurring drug problems / (a)busing drugs during the pregnancy.
    Not only are they a (financial) burden on society, but those kids will also never, ever have a serious or normal life. A good part will never grow old, those that do will most likely end up miserable. Fun for them!
    So now they're starting to raise the question whether or not we should prohibit those people of having children. Yes, obviously.

    Now, I know abusing drugs and having a genetic, involuntary problem is not the same thing, but here's the kicker: Looking at it from the kid's perspective, the reason why you "came out messed up" is completely irrelevant, isn't it?
    Should a woman, with ADHD taking ritalin, not be allowed to have children?
     
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    Nzoric

    Nzoric

    Grazie Mirko
    Jan 16, 2011
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    Bah, I'm boring and harmless, just like the most of you


    Economic Left/Right: -3.88
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.44

    i thought a bivsa komunjara would be more to the left. my mom would outflank karl marx

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