The Political Compass (7 Viewers)

[Nzoric]

You defended communism, you disagreed when i said it was a failed system and implied that it wasn't given enough of a chance. Which means you believe a centrally planned economy could work in the long term, does it not?

I wasn't referring to your point on a one party system at all, but now that you bring it up, i have to say, a one party system's disadvantages far outweigh its "advantages", even the advantages you claim it has, probably have no basis in reality and only sound possible in theory.

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so what? its nearer to communism's end?

but fred, i gave yugoslavia as an example of commie success, my arguments for it are not based in theory at all.
while were at it, let me just add that a financial crisis like the one we have today wouldnt even be a possibility with a centrally planned economy. both the capitalistic economy and centrally planned economy models rely heavily on the concept of trust in their own way.

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[Nzoric]

20 years of capitalism really brainwashed us, unfortunately

i can see how youre easily brainwashed by the thriving croatian economy

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[IliveForJuve]

Economic Left/Right: -3.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.82

 

[Hængebøffer]

Not if she's ugly.



I think you may have missed the point though.

No, I asked you a question.

Edit: just read it again; I totally missed the point

 

[Hængebøffer]

but fred, i gave yugoslavia as an example of commie success, my arguments for it are not based in theory at all.
while were at it, let me just add that a financial crisis like the one we have today wouldnt even be a possibility with a centrally planned economy. both the capitalistic economy and centrally planned economy models rely heavily on the concept of trust in their own way.

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That's why we mix it

 

[TrezJuve]

Economic Left/Right: 0.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.69

 

[Fred]

but fred, i gave yugoslavia as an example of commie success, my arguments for it are not based in theory at all.
while were at it, let me just add that a financial crisis like the one we have today wouldnt even be a possibility with a centrally planned economy. both the capitalistic economy and centrally planned economy models rely heavily on the concept of trust in their own way.

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Ya neither would high standards of living.

and let me make it clear again, i am not pro capitalism at all, on the contrary i'm opposed to it. I'm completely against the current banking system in use right now, i'm against the mechanisms used in money markets and most of all i am against free unregulated markets.

 

[Nzoric]

Ya neither would high standards of living.

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you really have no idea, do you?

 

[Fred]

Really? I'm the one with no idea?

 

[Zamperini]

Economic Left/Right: -1.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.51

Actually I have been voting on the liberal parties in Denmark in the last few elections. So including me on the left side when it comes to economics seems wrong.

 

[Raz]

Ya neither would high standards of living.

Yeah, on the third world countries back and africa. For you or anyone of us to have a high standard of living somewhere someone has to be close to poverty line.

 

[Nzoric]

Really? I'm the one with no idea?

explain the high standard of living in x yugoslavia then explain the laughably small impact the small crisis in the 70s had. you have no idea becauae you use the.soviet union as an example. china raised 300 million people over the poverty line. dont tell me it cant be.done, when it already succeeded.

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[Fred]

I really don't know that much about Yugoslavia.

 

[Nzoric]

I really don't know that much about Yugoslavia.

then dont make general statements about communism.

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[Hængebøffer]

explain the high standard of living in x yugoslavia then explain the laughably small impact the small crisis in the 70s had. you have no idea becauae you use the.soviet union as an example. china raised 300 million people over the poverty line. dont tell me it cant be.done, when it already succeeded.

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China's economy is market based.

 

[Hængebøffer]

Economic Left/Right: -1.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.51

Actually I have been voting on the liberal parties in Denmark in the last few elections. So including me on the left side when it comes to economics seems wrong.

Liberal parties in Denmark are still considered socialistic, when you compare to e.g. USA.

 

[Nzoric]

China's economy is market based.

it's a hybrid, not market based.

 

[WΏΏdy?]

Commies

 

[Nzoric]

Commies

---------- Post added 06.04.2012 at 16:50 ----------

Economic Left/Right: -1.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.51

Actually I have been voting on the liberal parties in Denmark in the last few elections. So including me on the left side when it comes to economics seems wrong.

skam dig, at stemme på de liberale på dette tidspunkt virker bare forkert på samtlige måder. jeg kan delvist forstå det i en tid hvor velvære er en generel ting, hvor der er arbjede nok - men den liberalistiske værdipolitik virker uhuman når fattigdom (relativt begreb i know) er til stede i et samfund hvor det ikke burde være.

 

[Zamperini]

Spoiler

I den tid vi lever i virker Kaynes markedsøkonomiske mekanismer bare ikke alene. De offentlige investeringer som der ønskes søsat for at få gang i beskæftigelsen hjælper jo intet når langt størstedelen af denne i sidste ende ender udenfor landets grænser. Tro mig at eksempelvis de italienske tunnelstøbere og heraf deres ingeniører jubler godt og grundigt over at de har fået aftalen med Femerntunellen i stand. Ideen med at bruge en masse penge for at sætte hjulene i gang fungerer givet vel i et 'lukket' system, mens man i den globaliserede verden vi har i dag i stedet for må gøre hvad vi kan for at tiltrække arbejdspladser til landet. Det gøres ikke ved at lægge en masse afgifter og detslige på virksomhederne.

Når man hører Enhedslisten komme ud med et forslag om at eksempelvis alle studerende skal have 12.000 kr i SU og at lønniveauet for alle brancher skal stige, så er det lige før jeg ærlig talt griner mig til døde. Det skal ikke forstås sådan at jeg er en hardcore liberal/borgelig (slet ikke liberalist), men mine økonomiske tanker er da placeret lidt til højre. Nu er jeg selv vokset op i en familie hvor pengene ikke hang på væggene, men deraf er det også gået op for mig hvor vigtigt det er at hver eneste mønt i kassen stemmer.

Lets see if this new tag thing works. @Nzoric