The Mod Thread ("because for some reason,you think we actually care") (37 Viewers)

[Bjerknes]

look at this way, when people say over the top stuff about the US to crack a joke, are you offended?

Depends on what is said, but if someone tries to pull me into "not caring" about killing Iraqis just because it suits so and so, then no, it is offensive. Same tactic was used against Dusan.

 

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[GordoDeCentral]

So everyone was getting insulted/offended by Seven's posts?

no but my message is along the line of yours and it deals with consistency, those offended by attacks on islam should show as much disgust if one is attacking jews or christians. And Tahir has always been like that as far as i can remember. check your box.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Depends on what is said, but if someone tries to pull me into "not caring" about killing Iraqis just because it suits so and so, then no, it is offensive. Same tactic was used against Dusan.

intent and precedent my friend, anyways i gotta be off to indoor soccer

 

[Alen]

As for the warnings & so on,if you felt i should have received them,why didn't you issue them?

Because 4 of you deserved a warning and one of them was Tahir, a moderator I couldn't warn. It was automatically keeping my hands tied.

As for that conversation of yours in that thread, I apologize if i'm wrong, since I don't even remember it well, but to me it looked like Seven was defending his points extremely well and when you were left without a proper response, you started provoking him.
But the most pitiful act there was the reaction of Tahir and Fred. When they saw that Seven is reacting to the provocation, they popped in, without having the slightest interest in the main topic, they took your avatar and they laughed to everything you said, being well aware that Seven will lose it sooner or later.

Even now Fred has the same avatar, knowing well that Seven is still reading and knowing that Seven doesn't like it.
That is pathetic.

And Elvin, your posts here are pathetic too.

 

[Bjerknes]

I remember that stuff, Alen. It also spilled to several threads, not just one.

 

[Fred]

And it's always been the same. I don't mean the forums, I mean it generally. This attitude is in the nature of the ones who have been abused whether because of their race or nationality, their religion or their sex.

The blacks: You call a black guy "monkey", you're racist then. You call a white guy "monkey", nothing happens. If you say that you hope Balotelli dies you're a racist but if you say the same about Beckham, it's okay.

The Muslims: If someone draws a caricature of Mohammad, Muslims run riot everywhere. If you claim that Mohammad was a liar, if you say that there isn't such a thing like God's messenger, if you disrespect Mohammad (Salman Rushdie), they call for your head. Why? Because Mohammad is highly esteemed among Muslims, because he is a holy feature for them.
I say I'm alright with all this: Don't make fun of something/someone that you know it means a lot for some other people.

But you know what's funny here? Exactly the same Muslims of all people make fun of "Holocaust". I'm not going into whether Holocaust had really happened to the large extent the Jews believe or not but thing is that "Holocaust" means a lot to them, the Jews. It's part of their beliefs even though you might believe that it had never happened. It's all alright for Muslims to claim that Holocaust never happened. It's alright to make fun of it because they believe that it's a lie. But no one in the world could dare to believe that Mohammad was a liar and no one could make fun of him by drawing his caricatures. Hell no one even allows to post those caricatures in a football forum.

So why is Seven getting punished and (check the Palestine thread) those who insult the Jews in general by denying the holocaust, those who insult the Israelis (if I was an Israeli, what JBF and Fred said today about Amr Zaki's action would have been a huge insult) etc are never ever punished?

Double standards.

Cut the bull and crap, Israel is a different situation and you know it(or maybe you don't). Sitting in your comfortable home far away in Croatia you do not know or you do not appreciate the gravity of the situation. I have plenty of Palestinian friends that have lost cousins, uncles and different relatives over there in Palestine, what do you think my position would be towards them?

I am 100% with Amr Zaki's action, try and live with it.

Because 4 of you deserved a warning and one of them was Tahir, a moderator I couldn't warn. It was automatically keeping my hands tied.

As for that conversation of yours in that thread, I apologize if i'm wrong, since I don't even remember it well, but to me it looked like Seven was defending his points extremely well and when you were left without a proper response, you started provoking him.
But the most pitiful act there was the reaction of Tahir and Fred. When they saw that Seven is reacting to the provocation, they popped in, without having the slightest interest in the main topic, they took your avatar and they laughed to everything you said, being well aware that Seven will lose it sooner or later.

Even now Fred has the same avatar, knowing well that Seven is still reading and knowing that Seven doesn't like it.
That is pathetic.

And Elvin, your posts here are pathetic too.

Actually i have the same avatar because i am too lazy to change it, anybody whose been on the forums long enough knows that when i have an avatar it stays for a long time. Seven rarely comes on this forum, plus he said it never really bothered him, but apparently it bothers you a lot, since this isn't the first time you've complained about it. For that reason i am going to keep it.

 

[Fred]

Most of those that are attacking Tahir for his comment(that he never really meant) are fuckin hypocrites. Half of you didn't have a problem with Seven's generalizing and insulting comments to Arabs and Muslims, but you're all riding the moral high horse now. Hypocritical stuff that does not surprise me at all actually.

I remember that stuff, Alen. It also spilled to several threads, not just one.

You were part of it, don't act all innocent here.

 

[Elvin]

Man, I kick myself for missing the whole background story behind Seven's invisible brother meme at Juventuz

Seven is a legend, unban that nigga. Power to people! Who doesn't like him just put him on the ignore list for God's sake, no one thought of that?
That's what Jesus would do.

 

[Nicholas]

Most of those that are attacking Tahir for his comment(that he never really meant) are fuckin hypocrites. Half of you didn't have a problem with Seven's generalizing and insulting comments to Arabs and Muslims, but you're all riding the moral high horse now. Hypocritical stuff that does not surprise me at all actually.




You were part of it, don't act all innocent here.

He attacked Dule, is Dule Seven? no so he was wrong in what he said. Thats the end of it mate.

 

[Suns]

Draaaaaama. You guys should be on The Hills, or The Juventuz.

 

[Bjerknes]

You were part of it, don't act all innocent here.

Not really. I just laughed at the avatar, nothing else.

You are to blame here, not me.

 

[X Æ A-12]

Most of those that are attacking Tahir for his comment(that he never really meant) are fuckin hypocrites. Half of you didn't have a problem with Seven's generalizing and insulting comments to Arabs and Muslims, but you're all riding the moral high horse now. Hypocritical stuff that does not surprise me at all actually.



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Yes but Seven is constantly criticized and was banned for his actions, Tahir is a mod so just because Seven does it doesn't make it alright. Plus it seemed very much unprovoked on Dusan's part

 

[Alen]

Cut the bull and crap, Israel is a different situation and you know it(or maybe you don't). Sitting in your comfortable home far away in Croatia you do not know or you do not appreciate the gravity of the situation. I have plenty of Palestinian friends that have lost cousins, uncles and different relatives over there in Palestine, what do you think my position would be towards them?

I am 100% with Amr Zaki's action, try and live with it.

Don't talk to me about war and consequences of it. I know painfully well what it brings.
You'll never understand that me defending Dule or Dule defending me is the same as an Arab defending an Israeli or vice-versa.
But you know nothing else but hatred.
I pity you.

Actually i have the same avatar because i am too lazy to change it, anybody whose been on the forums long enough knows that when i have an avatar it stays for a long time.

How do you expect anyone to buy this?

 

[Fred]

He attacked Dule, is Dule Seven? no so he was wrong in what he said. Thats the end of it mate.

He did not attack Dule, he was showing Dule what Seven was doing to the muslims. Since Dule never understood why Seven's comments were offensive or insulting to people. People thought what Tahir said was wrong (which it was of course, but again he didn't mean it). Seven does that all the time, the very same people defended Seven and thought he should never have been banned.


In English they call that hypocrisy

 

[Fred]

Don't talk to me about war and consequences of it. I know painfully well what it brings.
You'll never understand that me defending Dule or Dule defending me is the same as an Arab defending an Israeli or vice-versa.
But you know nothing else but hatred.
I pity you.






How do you expect anyone to buy this?

Why do you think i expect you to buy it?

I'm keeping it because it bothers you. If you want to think i am keeping it to provoke Seven, then fine, i am keeping it to provoke Seven too.

Too bad you aren't a mod anymore, you can't force me to take it off.

 

[Nicholas]

He did not attack Dule, he was showing Dule what Seven was doing to the muslims. Since Dule never understood why Seven's comments were offensive or insulting to people. People thought what Tahir said was wrong (which it was of course, but again he didn't mean it). Seven does that all the time, the very same people defended Seven and thought he should never have been banned.


In English they call that hypocrisy

They do, however Tahir is intelligent enough to word his post much better.

 

[Bjerknes]

Most of those that are attacking Tahir for his comment(that he never really meant) are fuckin hypocrites. Half of you didn't have a problem with Seven's generalizing and insulting comments to Arabs and Muslims, but you're all riding the moral high horse now. Hypocritical stuff that does not surprise me at all actually.

Some of your posts lately have been nothing more than...

 

[Byrone]

Because 4 of you deserved a warning and one of them was Tahir, a moderator I couldn't warn. It was automatically keeping my hands tied.

As for that conversation of yours in that thread, I apologize if i'm wrong, since I don't even remember it well, but to me it looked like Seven was defending his points extremely well and when you were left without a proper response, you started provoking him.
But the most pitiful act there was the reaction of Tahir and Fred. When they saw that Seven is reacting to the provocation, they popped in, without having the slightest interest in the main topic, they took your avatar and they laughed to everything you said, being well aware that Seven will lose it sooner or later.

Even now Fred has the same avatar, knowing well that Seven is still reading and knowing that Seven doesn't like it.
That is pathetic.

And Elvin, your posts here are pathetic too.

Not at all.He insulted me & it was pretty clear he wasn't interested in having a constructive debate.When i started dissing seven,they laughed.Are they not allowed to laugh?When two members have a go at each & one makes a funny remark,should we not express how we feel in order to keep that person happy?

In the past seven has posted pics to mock islam.His sidekick Bes & a few other minions also laughed at his "funny" posts.As for Frec keeping his avatar,it's his right & you cant use that against him.Even if Fred changes his avatar,seven will still find some way to worm into a religious thread & insult islam.Infact the day seven steers clear from insulting religion & religious members,then Fred should remove it then.

But we know that aint ever,ever gonna happen.

Anyway in between fighting with me,Tahir & Fred,why did seven open up that retarded "americans do it better" thread?We both know why & unfortunately for him it failed miserably.

 

[Alen]

Why do you think i expect you to buy it?

I'm keeping it because it bothers you. If you want to think i am keeping it to provoke Seven, then fine, i am keeping it to provoke Seven too.

Too bad you aren't a mod anymore, you can't force me to take it off.

Not even the slightest bid. It works in my advantage.

And i'd have never forced you to take it off. We're not forcing our beliefs on anyone here and I don't ban people just because I don't like the picture they have/posted.

 

[Bjerknes]

He did not attack Dule, he was showing Dule what Seven was doing to the muslims. Since Dule never understood why Seven's comments were offensive or insulting to people. People thought what Tahir said was wrong (which it was of course, but again he didn't mean it). Seven does that all the time, the very same people defended Seven and thought he should never have been banned.


In English they call that hypocrisy

Prove that he did not mean it.

You can't.

That's it, now I'm 100% for Seven back. Tahir should relinquish his modship immediately because if it was Seven, he'd be banned.