The Lebanese political crisis!!! (39 Viewers)

[JCK]

Have oriental christians met any bad treatment by Muslims in the Middle East??

In Iraq and Syria they have. In Lebanon the case is otherwise.

In Saudi Arabia a Christian female is forced to cover her head, something against HER beliefs and traditions.

 

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[Bjerknes]

In Iraq and Syria they have. In Lebanon the case is otherwise.

In Saudi Arabia a Christian female is forced to cover her head, something against HER beliefs and traditions.

I find that absolutely disgusting by the way. Rather offensive as well.

 

[Bjerknes]

Islamic Jehad & PFLP are getting more popularity in the Palestinian lands, and that's very good for the long-run...

Yes, it's very good in the long-run for the distruction of Israel and the region.

 

[JCK]

Have oriental christians met any bad treatment by Muslims in the Middle East??

The Lebanese are known to drink alcohol, mainly Arak. I assume under an Islamic rule, alcohol will be forbidden, just as the case in other Arabic countries. Would you encourage this small group of people to smuggle what the want to drink? Or simply forbid them at all? How would you deal with such differences? What would you do with the Lebanese beaches? Simply forbid girls from going around in bikinis? Or would you create like they have already created in Lebanon "masba7 3ajram lil sayyedat" (Ajram beach for women)?

 

[Falafel]

Yes, it's very good in the long-run for the distruction of Israel and the region.

2 options are available for palestinians(long run issues)

one is beneficial and very good in the long run for the destruction of israel
the other is very bad for Palestine and will lead to the destruction of Palestine


let's say u were a Palestinian, which one would u pick?

 

[Falafel]

Gill,

Once again, you call me stupid when I wasn't even talking to you!!

Please stay away from any decent discussion until you mature...

By the way, thanks Abulnubul & Ahmed:toast:

no worries
tekram 3enak:eyebrows:

 

[Ahmedios]

What if the few Christians left in Lebanon and Syria and some in Iraq don't want to live under Muslim customs and traditions? What would you do with them?

These customs and traditions aren't Muslim in origin but they are Arabic, and there is a big difference between both.

I find that absolutely disgusting by the way. Rather offensive as well.

Who told you that these things happen?

Yes, it's very good in the long-run for the distruction of Israel and the region.

You are talking about terrorists not real Islamic leaders.

The Lebanese are known to drink alcohol, mainly Arak. I assume under an Islamic rule, alcohol will be forbidden, just as the case in other Arabic countries. Would you encourage this small group of people to smuggle what the want to drink? Or simply forbid them at all? How would you deal with such differences? What would you do with the Lebanese beaches? Simply forbid girls from going around in bikinis? Or would you create like they have already created in Lebanon "masba7 3ajram lil sayyedat" (Ajram beach for women)?

Excuse me, you just assume. I've never heard that any Egyptian christian has suffered such a problem (Muslims form 90% of the population in Egypt), so what about Lebanon, in which the vast majority of people there are Christians.

And who told you that Alchol is forbidden? What smuggling are you talking about? Have you ever been to any Arabian country before? Certainly, you can do anything you want to do in the Arabs countries from drinking to whatever you can imagine.

What bikinis? Excuse me, you are talking about another world, Not because most of the Arabs are Muslims, this means that all Christian, who live in the Arab world, are forced to live the same life.

 

[JCK]

I would like you tell me a bit more about the Coptics in Egypt then.

 

[Ahmedios]

I would like you tell me a bit more about the Coptics in Egypt then.

We are talking about Lebanon, so why Egypt now?

 

[JCK]

I thought we are talking about the goal that many have in uniting all the arab world under one nation and the consequences of the few Christians that live in Syria and Iraq and half the Lebanese population.

 

[Ahmedios]

I thought we are talking about the goal that many have in uniting all the arab world under one nation and the consequences of the few Christians that live in Syria and Iraq and half the Lebanese population.

Nothing will affect Christians anywhere in the Arab world if we become actually one nation. The point here is that your view to the whole issue depends on which religion do the Arabs believe in and then comes their identity as being arabian themselves. Definitely, the priority is to our arabian nationalism and then comes our own beliefs.

The civil war in Lebanon doesn't reflect the relationship between Muslims and Christians in the Arabic countries.

 

[Rami]

Don't know under what I could categorize this, it invoked different feelings for me...

For your Arabic ears

 

[Rami]

In Iraq and Syria they have. In Lebanon the case is otherwise.

In Saudi Arabia a Christian female is forced to cover her head, something against HER beliefs and traditions.

Not entirely true, in the Eastern province and West, thats not the case for sure....Don't know about Riyadh though. But I wouldn't be surprised if I saw a Western woman not wearing a head scarf...

 

[Snoop]

It is True Rami, my Cousin is a christian and she is with her husband there for work, and she has to wear a head scarf, and not allowed to drive a car..

 

[Slagathor]

lol that's disturbing, very 1400s...

Oh wait...

 

[Rami]

It is True Rami, my Cousin is a christian and she is with her husband there for work, and she has to wear a head scarf, and not allowed to drive a car..

I said not entirely true. I have seen lots of women without the scarves, guess it depends on the setting and/or place...

Hell I've seen Bikinis here!

 

[Rami]

lol that's disturbing, very 1400s...

Oh wait...

You know way too much...shudddup

 

[Ahmedios]

It is True Rami, my Cousin is a christian and she is with her husband there for work, and she has to wear a head scarf, and not allowed to drive a car..

Even though, this doesn't reflect that all the Arab countries are the same. Saudia Arabia has its own traditions due to the presence of the holy Islamic places.

 

[Snoop]

In Syria there are concerns about these Issues too, Christians are not really that free, but they mind their own buisnesses, If they avoid troubles they are fine, but that thanx to Assad's System (one of the rare positivies sides of the system), The country is so safe, Syrian Inteligents Control the troubles Immidietly..

Sure If the "Ikhwan Muslemeen"/Sunni Extrimists" Takes control, I don't know what will the Christians do in Syria..

 

[Ahmedios]

In Syria there are concerns about these Issues too, Christians are not really that free, but they mind their own buisnesses, If they avoid troubles they are fine, but that thanx to Assad's System (one of the rare positivies sides of the system), The country is so safe, Syrian Inteligents Control the troubles Immidietly..

Sure If the "Ikhwan Muslemeen"/Sunni Extrimists" Takes control, I don't know what will the Christians do in Syria..

What do you mean by saying that "Christians are not really that free"? If you mean that the system in Syria differentiate between Muslims and Christians, so you must have an evidence to prove your point. You can say that the situation of the Christians in Saudi Arabia is a little bit weird because, as I've mentioned in my previous post, most of the holy Islamic places happens to be located there. By the way, do you think that there are lots of Muslims in Vatican? And if so, do you think that their situation is much accepted? I doubt and I can see the point.

There is a huge difference between terrorists and Al Ikhwan Muslemeen. Terrorists are blind ignorant extremists whose official language is violence. On the other hand, Al Ikhwan Muslemeen are decent sane Islamic organisation who follow the principles both Al Qur'an and the sunna of Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.).

The Syrian Ikhwan are just a branch of the Egyptian Ikhwan, who are the origin to all Ikhwan Muslemeen in all the other arabian countries. Consequently, they have the same beliefs, aims and methods. Before misunderstanding me, when I say methods, I mean peaceful methods not violence nor aggression. Even though, if it happens and they use another method as an exception, so that leads me to ask one question, what are the main reason behind such a deed? Certainly, the arabian governments have the most accurate answer.