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[Enron]

Why are you doing all this?

Who are you to post what he said?If someone is going to do that it should be a mod.I guess there was a reason why Alen PMed you.

Good point Dule. That is quite a strange ethic.

 

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[Osman]

Not the thread, just one quote. I asked for it repeteadly in this thread (no one else was asking for it, they already made up their opinions), Alen was courtesious enough to PM. PMed instead of show it here because he thought it was Ze's bussiness and waited for him, that he should be the one to show it to everyone here.

He was just being respectful to Ze, knows its best for everyone to know directly here what was said as it now has been quoted. Its better to be honest and open directly here, and Ze has been here so far. Alen just wanted to wait for him before showing any quotes.

 

[HelterSkelter]

To all you Andy supporters :

Should he be above the rules?

 

[Dostoevsky]

Not the thread, just one quote. I asked for it repeteadly in this thread, Alen PMed instead of show it here because he thought it was Ze's bussiness and that he should be the one to show it to everyone here.

He was just being respectful to Ze, knows its best for everyone to know directly here what was said as it now has been quoted.

Why didn`t you also be respectful to Ze and keep that for yourself then?

 

[HelterSkelter]

Dule you support Andy here..fine,do it.

Why do you have a problem with Osman being on the other side?

He has every right to have an opinion,just like you.

 

[.zero]

Bianc0neri, I can reply to you, but I dont want my secret of being a connessieur of the mods nuts, be outed even more.

whatever makes you feel better kid

 

[Osman]

Why didn`t you also be respectful to Ze and keep that for yourself then?

I did, I showed the quote only after he showed it, and asked him to show it himself before doing it.



Mr Bianconeri, sorry to be blunt, but I think you fantastically fall under the cathegory of juventuz morons Seven mentionned earlier in the thread.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Dule you support Andy here..fine,do it.

Why do you have a problem with Osman being on the other side?

He has every right to have an opinion,just like you.

You didn`t get the point.I don`t mind if someone is on the right side and yes he has all rights for his opinion.

Osman posted what Andy said and I think it was something wrong.

 

[Enron]

Not the thread, just one quote. I asked for it repeteadly in this thread (no one else was asking for it, they already made up their opinions), Alen was courtesious enough to PM. PMed instead of show it here because he thought it was Ze's bussiness and waited for him, that he should be the one to show it to everyone here.

He was just being respectful to Ze, knows its best for everyone to know directly here what was said as it now has been quoted.

I don't think Alen should have sent you the quote. First, as you said, it wasn't your business or anyone else's. It's the Mods job to moderate this forum, not yours or mine.

If its right for "everyone" then post it back up, just keep it closed. Simple as that. But why do that when ultimately it doesn't matter because its up to the Mods?

 

[Osman]

Why is it wrong, werent you asking for what he said and know why he is in trouble instead of it being hidden by the FMs?


You all want the mods to be honest and say what the material in question was, but now you say they should have kept it to themselves? I was corious (because I thought it was power abuse as before) and asked for it, and they were nice enough to show it (ONE post of the crap he said). Wow, big deal. Non of you were asking for it, and I was. And the reason it wasnt shown here before was because Ze wasnt online.


Talk about taking the attention away from Andy's words and actions.

 

[Alen]

So why would Mods remove a thread and then PM the nasty bits to Osman? That just doesn't seem right. I mean is he a mod? Why does his opinion count more than others? If you're going to send him the thread so he can make a decision on the matter. Then you must send us all the thread and arrange a poll. That is the door the Mods have opened.

I never sent him a thread.
It was one single post that can now be seen publicly.
That post was here in the forums for a whole day and everyone could see it. It's not like it was a top secret.

People were asking why is Andy close to a ban. That particular post was the answer. I said that to Andy on MSN also.
Instead of putting that post here so everyone could see it i just told Andy and Osman (who was asking why is Andy close to a ban) by MSN/PM.

 

[Seven]

Alright you guys need an explanation, an explanations you shall have.


The reason Andy is being banned (well banished for now) is due to his continuous disregard for the rules. Now you can whine all day that "fuck the rules" but that's not how things work around here. You simply can't run around and insult people left and right and expect to get away with it because you're considered a deity around here.

Do you know how many members complain to me on a daily basis that they feel uncomfortable and abused by you two? Do you know how many members you've managed to drive away since you've been here? You don't own this place, I hate to break it you.

How many members would be allowed back after not serving their bans peacefully? How many here would be allowed back after creating a dozen dual accounts? No one, but dear me don't ban Andy for it, that's sacrilege.

I don't care how damn good of a poster you are if you're making it harder for us to do our job and if you're making the forum experience harder for other posters then just take yourself somewhere else.

Just to make something clear: This has nothing to do with the Parma fan incident. You are entitled to your opinion regardless of how sick it is. This started with you and your argument with Twenty--3. I decided to close that thread and not hand out any warnings, and then you went and started another thread and went on a blatant attack on the guy. That warrants a straight ban whether rules mean anything to you or your possy or not. It's also a slap in my face as a moderator.

After this incident we discussed this in the batcave and we came to a majority consensus that you are to be banned. However, we have a certain glitch in the system and so we decided to limit you to the NATW section. There was a problem and now you are stuck in the Italian section, I don't know anything about that.

Just to clear up another thing, this isn't personal. Andy is a good poster, he does bring a lot to the forums, and he has been a good friend most of the time. But that doesn't mean he's going to get special treatment.

I honestly feel offended here, Ze. Don't give me the moral high hat like that.

 

[.zero]

Dule you support Andy here..fine,do it.

Why do you have a problem with Osman being on the other side?

He has every right to have an opinion,just like you.

salman,

dule and i both have no problem with osman voicing his opinion, no matter what his opinion is. We are just fascinated by his intrigue in this matter. Obviously this issue means a lot to him personally and he has a lot vested in this matter.

 

[HelterSkelter]

You didn`t get the point.I don`t mind if someone is on the right side and yes he has all rights for his opinion.

Osman posted what Andy said and I think it was something wrong.

Good enough.But you've been on his back ever since he's started supporting Andy's potential ban.

 

[Enron]

Dule you support Andy here..fine,do it.

Why do you have a problem with Osman being on the other side?

He has every right to have an opinion,just like you.

You are completely missing the point.

 

[Dostoevsky]

I did, I showed the quote only after he showed it, and asked him to show it himself before doing it.



Mr Bianconeri, sorry to be blunt, but I think you fantastically fall under the cathegory of juventuz morons Seven mentionned earlier in the thread.

Mr. Osman go to your XT forum and stop talking bullshit.

 

[HelterSkelter]

salman,

dule and i both have no problem with osman voicing his opinion, no matter what his opinion is. We are just fascinated by his intrigue in this matter. Obviously this issue means a lot to him personally and he has a lot vested in this matter.

Are you not doing the exact opposite Dru?

Would you be questioning Osman if he was supporting Andy?I doubt that.Osman has posted a lot in this thread.Why would he even have a vested interest here?He isnt a regular here.He's a regular on XT.Just because he's one of the few posters who think that Andy deserves a ban is no reason to gang up on him.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Good enough.But you've been on his back ever since he's started supporting Andy's potential ban.

And you are on my back as well since I started support Andy.Do you have any problem with?Why are everyone attacking me?I just pointed out that Osman should realise that he`s not admin here.

 

[Osman]

salman,

dule and i both have no problem with osman voicing his opinion, no matter what his opinion is. We are just fascinated by his intrigue in this matter. Obviously this issue means a lot to him personally and he has a lot vested in this matter.

Wait, how cute, I have the right to voice my opinion, but the same time I really shouldnt because you say its something sinister and wrong to voice it?

Why not instead address me saying its wrong to say what Andy did?

 

[Enron]

I never sent him a thread.
It was one single post that can now be seen publicly.
That post was here in the forums for a whole day and everyone could see it. It's not like it was a top secret.

People were asking why is Andy close to a ban. That particular post was the answer. I said that to Andy on MSN also.
Instead of putting that post here so everyone could see it i just told Andy and Osman (who was asking why is Andy close to a ban) by MSN/PM.

I don't care about Andy's ban, I'll agree he went overboard. He doesn't deserve a permanent ban, but that's my opinion.

My argument was against the appearance of preferential treatment. If you wanted to share the quote with everyone, you should have made it public. Not just giving to someone who is obviously biased. Now you have the quote public. Thanks.