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.zero

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Aug 8, 2006
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Are you not doing the exact opposite Dru?

Would you be questioning Osman if he was supporting Andy?I doubt that.Osman has posted a lot in this thread.Why would he even have a vested interest here?He isnt a regular here.He's a regular on XT.Just because he's one of the few posters who think that Andy deserves a ban is no reason to gang up on him.
i'm not taking andy's side nor am i condemning what osman is saying bro. i had 1 post where all i said was that i don't think he should deserve a perm. ban. thats it.

i'm not defending anyone here nor am i choosing sides.

but i don't understand why it means sooo much to him

i really don't mind if he feels that andy should be punished, i agree with him on that matter to a point, but i still don't understand why this is so important to him personally.
 

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HelterSkelter

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Apr 15, 2005
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Im sure he realizes that.Im not attacking you.But correct me if im wrong,you were the one who went 'Im leaving too if Andy gets banned'.

Just because he has an opinion,like everyone else,doesnt mean that he needs to be a mod to express it.He supports one side,you support the other.Thats it.You could be accuses of trying to be a mod jsut as much as you're accusing him.Would that be fair?No.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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if this is an April fools joke, then its a pretty bad one

I'm not one to tell anyone how to do their job on this forum (I wouldnt want your jobs), but I think some warnings should have been thrown out there, rather than banning Andy once again

I find it even harder to believe that Ze is the mod who is having these issues with Andy, I thought you guys were friends (as much as one can be on a forum)

Also, again its really none of my business, but I consider Rab to be a good guy...we agree on many issues, but this whole mess with snoop should be squashed NOW !!

I have had my disagreements with snoop over the past few years, but he is a big part of this forum, like Andy, Seven, Pado, Dom, etc, etc....

We have to stop losing our regulars...
Well put, Vin.

I know that a certain respect for the rules is always necessary, but I also know Andy (like me) is someone who can easily be provoked. One of the reasons is that he (again like me) possesses the ability to defend a wide array of arguments. Ze on the other hand can be quite rigid in his mindflow. I like Ze and I won't offend him or say he's doing a bad job, but I don't think he handled the Andy situation well.

Most importantly the mods need to find an agreement with Andy. This situation is absurd and doesn't deserve all this attention. The rules should be bent a bit more for everyone as right now every insult, even if it was intended to be simply funny, gets you a warning. Real life is not like that and even if it's an internet forum we don't all have to get along. The occasional heated debate should be possible.

I have already explained in depth why I think Rab was a poor choice and I have also already said that this was not a personal issue.
 

Enron

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Oct 11, 2005
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Are you not doing the exact opposite Dru?

Would you be questioning Osman if he was supporting Andy?I doubt that.Osman has posted a lot in this thread.Why would he even have a vested interest here?He isnt a regular here.He's a regular on XT.Just because he's one of the few posters who think that Andy deserves a ban is no reason to gang up on him.
It's not a gang really. I was more on Alen's keester.:D
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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My argument was against the appearance of preferential treatment. If you wanted to share the quote with everyone, you should have made it public. Not just giving to someone who is obviously biased. Now you have the quote public. Thanks.
Tell me how I am biased. You said he went overboard and was wrong to do so, I said the same.

No one was asking for the quote, only I was, and Alen didnt want to post it publically until ze was online. Yeah what preferential treatment, because he turned down everyone else who were asking for the quote, but weirdly enough, no one was.
 

HelterSkelter

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Apr 15, 2005
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Andries a certain respect for the rules is necessary,and dishing out warnings for every little thing is silly..but how can you handle someone who repeatedly goes overboard?Give me a solution.Id love to hear it.
 

.zero

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Aug 8, 2006
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Wait, how cute, I have the right to voice my opinion, but the same time I really shouldnt because you say its something sinister and wrong to voice it?

Why not instead address me saying its wrong to say what Andy did?
look kid, i never said that what you have been saying is wrong or sinister.

i have no problem with it at all. i just don't understand why this topic is sooo dear to you. i am not taking andy's side by saying that he should not be punished at all. what he did was against the rules. but what is your interest in all this?? its just an inquiry not an accusation or a condemnation of you voicing your opinion.

do you understand?

i'm not trying to argue with you here son
 

Enron

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Im sure he realizes that.Im not attacking you.But correct me if im wrong,you were the one who went 'Im leaving too if Andy gets banned'.

Just because he has an opinion,like everyone else,doesnt mean that he needs to be a mod to express it.He supports one side,you support the other.Thats it.You could be accuses of trying to be a mod jsut as much as you're accusing him.Would that be fair?No.
Oh! Oh! Let me! Let me!



It was Dule!:D*



*You know I love you D.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Andries a certain respect for the rules is necessary,and dishing out warnings for every little thing is silly..but how can you handle someone who repeatedly goes overboard?Give me a solution.Id love to hear it.
In Andy's case you talk to him.
 

.zero

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Aug 8, 2006
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Im sure he realizes that.Im not attacking you.But correct me if im wrong,you were the one who went 'Im leaving too if Andy gets banned'.

Just because he has an opinion,like everyone else,doesnt mean that he needs to be a mod to express it.He supports one side,you support the other.Thats it.You could be accuses of trying to be a mod jsut as much as you're accusing him.Would that be fair?No.
was that directed at me or dule?

cuz i never threatened to stop posting or leave, i think that was dule bro
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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look kid, i never said that what you have been saying is wrong or sinister.

i have no problem with it at all. i just don't understand why this topic is sooo dear to you. i am not taking andy's side by saying that he should not be punished at all. what he did was against the rules. but what is your interest in all this?? its just an inquiry not an accusation or a condemnation of you voicing your opinion.

do you understand?

i'm not trying to argue with you here son
Who said it was dear to me? I was corious, and then found out what it was about specifically, then shared my opinion of it. Thats it. If I understand you, I shouldnt have done it?
 

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Tzu
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Im sure he realizes that.Im not attacking you.But correct me if im wrong,you were the one who went 'Im leaving too if Andy gets banned'.

Just because he has an opinion,like everyone else,doesnt mean that he needs to be a mod to express it.He supports one side,you support the other.Thats it.You could be accuses of trying to be a mod jsut as much as you're accusing him.Would that be fair?No.
I said it because Snoop went.Now Andy might leave us as well.I think forum is much better place with them.Thats just my opinion.And yeah I`d probably leave.
 

Enron

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Oct 11, 2005
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Tell me how I am biased. You said he went overboard and was wrong to do so, I said the same.

No one was asking for the quote, only I was, and Alen didnt want to post it publically until ze was online. Yeah what preferential treatment, because he turned down everyone else who were asking for the quote, but weirdly enough, no one was.
Maybe you're not biased but you do seem to be passionate. Don't get me wrong your a good poster when you're here but let's be honest you aren't here that often.
From that point I don't think he should have sent it to anyone, especially if he didn't want to post it.
 
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