The History Thread (42 Viewers)

Mar 9, 2006
29,039
#82
Sad stories...
He even doesn't know that Romanian leader back then, Ion Victor Antonescu, was nazi furer and that only in 1944 Romanian king Mihai I organized revolution to overthrow that Nazi cunt and to join aanti-Hitler coalition :sergio: So what the point for soviet army to kill and rape women and children of friendly army? :lol: jesus :lol: oh and then europeans called it "SOVIET OCCUPATION OF ROMANIA" :rofl: Nobody give a damn that romanian people organized revolution by themselves and asked soviet army to come to romania to protect people :rofl:
 

Raz

Senior Member
Nov 20, 2005
12,218
#83
Juventino[RUS];4516565 said:
He even doesn't know that Romanian leader back then, Ion Victor Antonescu, was nazi furer and that only in 1944 Romanian king Mihai I organized revolution to overthrow that Nazi cunt and to join aanti-Hitler coalition :sergio: So what the point for soviet army to kill and rape women and children of friendly army? :lol:
You are hopeless, you seem to not understand or dont want to understand what we are saying to you. It's not major politics or geopolitical stuff or any other super event, simply experiences from people that lived that time and had contact with the people invading their lands.
 
Mar 9, 2006
29,039
#84
You are hopeless, you seem to not understand or dont want to understand what we are saying to you. It's not major politics or geopolitical stuff or any other super event, simply experiences from people that lived that time and had contact with the people invading their lands.

:lol: We invaded countries which were already invaded by the nazis :rofl: What an amazing logic :lol2:
 

Raz

Senior Member
Nov 20, 2005
12,218
#86
Juventino[RUS];4516577 said:
:lol: We invaded countries which were already invaded by the nazis :rofl: What an amazing logic :lol2:
Well, that did sort of happen. In fact that happened all over the place.
 
Mar 9, 2006
29,039
#89
Well, that did sort of happen. In fact that happened all over the place.
What about Klaipeda? SO you are unhappy that soviet army gave it back the old name, kicked nazis from it and gave a normal life to your region? :lol: No, no, its was better for nazi to stay there and to kill all the jewish and other non-aryan race people :lol:why not, you would not be born now, i wouldnt waste my time on you :notbad: :lol:
 

Raz

Senior Member
Nov 20, 2005
12,218
#91
Juventino[RUS];4516587 said:
What about Klaipeda? SO you are unhappy that soviet army give it back old name, kicked nazis from it and gave a normal life to your region? :lol: No, no, its was better for nazi to stay there and to kill all the jewish and other non-aryan race people :lol:why not, you would not be born now, i wouldnt waste my time :notbad: :lol:
Look, I don't even think that killing jews is all up to Nazi germany, there were fucked up lithuanians who were did quite a big part of it happily when they got the chance.

As for klaipeda what do you mean give it back? Klaipeda after first world war was a bit unique that it was a free state under french protectoriate, and nobady knew what to do with it. If everything would have went according to international law and influence I would probably be speaking polish right now, but small lithuanian rebel group backed by lithuanian authorities took back and established lithuanian flag some time 1924~ I think.

And now after WWII Soviets didn't give back anything, they took it in and if it were up to them they wouldn't have letted nobady go.
 

Raz

Senior Member
Nov 20, 2005
12,218
#93
Stalin would have never allowed you to support Juventus.
No one's saying he's all bad.

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Juventino[RUS];4516598 said:
oh, son of osman empire is in the building, should i remind what you've done to poor armenians just because they were christians? keep ur mouth shut
It's as if whole world is messed up around you and only your own fake garden is perfect. Well keep living that fake world, one day will be a big shocker to you that's for sure.
 
Mar 9, 2006
29,039
#94
Look, I don't even think that killing jews is all up to Nazi germany, there were fucked up lithuanians who were did quite a big part of it happily when they got the chance.

As for klaipeda what do you mean give it back? Klaipeda after first world war was a bit unique that it was a free state under french protectoriate, and nobady knew what to do with it. If everything would have went according to international law and influence I would probably be speaking polish right now, but our own rebels took back and established lithuanian flag some time 1924~ I think.

And now after WWII Soviets didn't give back anything, they took it in and if it were up to them they wouldn't have letted nobady go.
"As tensions in pre-war Europe continued to grow, it was expected that Germany would make a move against Lithuania to reacquire the region. German Foreign Minister Joachim von Ribbentrop delivered an ultimatum to the Lithuanian Foreign Minister on 20 March 1939, demanding the surrender of Klaipėda. Lithuania, unable to secure international support for its cause, submitted to the ultimatum and, in exchange for the right to use the new harbour facilities as a Free Port, ceded the disputed region to Germany in the late evening of 22 March 1939. Adolf Hitler personally visited the harbour and delivered a speech to the city residents. This was Hitler's last territorial acquisition prior to World War II."

"The Soviets transformed Klaipėda, the foremost ice-free port in the Eastern Baltic, into the largest piscatorial-marine base in the European USSR. A gigantic shipyard, dockyards, and a fishing port were constructed. Subsequently, by the end of 1959, the population of the city had doubled its pre-war population, and by 1989 there were 203,000 inhabitants. In the aftermath of World War II almost all the new residents came to Klaipėda from Lithuania, Russia, Belarus and Ukraine. Initially the Russian-speakers dominated local government in the city, but after the death of Joseph Stalin, more people came to the city from the rest of Lithuania than from other Soviet republics and oblasts; Lithuanians then became its major ethnic group. Among Lithuanian cities with a population greater than 100,000, however, Klaipėda has the highest percentage of people whose native language is Russian."

BAD BAD USSR, they've ruined the whole region of Klaipeda, turned it to ashes :( :( :(

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No one's saying he's all bad.

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It's as if whole world is messed up around you and only your own fake garden is perfect. Well keep living that fake world, one day will be a big shocker to you that's for sure.
oh, so armenian genocide never happened? :lol: :lol: :lol: you have a very poor schools in lithuania :lol:
 

Raz

Senior Member
Nov 20, 2005
12,218
#95
Are you kidding me? If you were someone else I would think you are trolling. The first part is a bit of a time difference I talked about 1924 when klaipeda became lithuania, and in that particular time germans were supporting klaipeda becoming lithuania instead of poland.

And the second about armenian genocide? Where did I deny it? I just said it is crazy to see you going on about genocides in every part of the world yet deny anything that soviets did, including genocides.
 
Jul 2, 2006
19,431
#96
Juventino[RUS];4516598 said:
oh, son of osman empire is in the building, should i remind what you've done to poor armenians just because they were christians? keep ur mouth shut
Nevertheless, Son of Osman Empire is allowed to support Juventus but Son of Soviet Empire is not. Joseph would have hammered you if he saw you watching Juventus games.

You're the one who turned Armenians against Ottomans then left them like a used tool btw.
 
Mar 9, 2006
29,039
#97
Are you kidding me? If you were someone else I would think you are trolling. The first part is a bit of a time difference I talked about 1924 when klaipeda became lithuania, and in that particular time germans were supporting klaipeda becoming lithuania instead of poland.

And the second about armenian genocide? Where did I deny it? I just said it is crazy to see you going on about genocides in every part of the world yet deny anything that soviets did, including genocides.
What i've read about Klaipeda - it's been a part of Prussia, part of German empire, then after germany lost WW1 you've became the territory under french protectorate, then they gave you autonomy status and then nazi invaded your region and renamed it back to Memel, then after WWII you've became a part of another big empire, USSR, so what the problem with you and USSR? Why you doesn't hate Germany? The 1990 per capita GDP of the Lithuanian Soviet Socialist Republic was $8,591, which was above the average for the rest of the Soviet Union of $6,871. In the 1990 lithuanian economic were on 39th place in the world, now ur average salary is 590 euro, so what you won from joining the EU? Lol, you wanted freedom but exchanged it on joining into european union, what an amazing way to feel freedom :rofl: now you are nothing but appendage of EU, like Greece, Bulgaria and so on

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Nevertheless, Son of Osman Empire is allowed to support Juventus but Son of Soviet Empire is not. Joseph would have hammered you if he saw you watching Juventus games.

You're the one who turned Armenians against Ottomans then left them like a used tool btw.
Wow :sergio:
 

Raz

Senior Member
Nov 20, 2005
12,218
#98
Juventino[RUS];4516606 said:
What i've read about Klaiped - it's been a part of Prussia, part of German empire, then after germany lost WW1 you've became the territory under french protectorate, then they gave you autonomy status and then nazi invaded your region and renamed it back to Memel, then after WWII you've became a part of another big empire, USSR, so what the problem with you and USSR? Why you doesn't hate Germany? lol
Well, klaipeda after first world war when germany lost and territories were taken from her bacame a free state under the treaty of versalies because they wanted to take away germany connection to the sea the same was with gdansk. So it was watched by french and no one knew what to do with klaipeda. Poland wanted to incorporate lithuania as a whole into them after the war and so in turn they wanted klaipeda too, but at 1923-4 winter the lithuanian rebels took klaipeda by force and one of the first countires to recognise this was germany.

In the second great war yeah, we were anexed by germany, and after that the same was done by soviets. To cut it short why we don't hate germans(we don't hate russians ether too, there are loads of them living here, not as many as in latvia or estonia, that's because russians were afraid to come to lithuania, because during the occupation of soviets after ww2 soviets imported a lot of russians into baltic states, but lithuania was known as a bad place for russians at that time, because many russians were killed by lithuanians for some time) is because germans never raped or killed our families during the war by hundreds or took hundereds of thousands of us agaisnt our will to ukraine or even worse to siberia to die.

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Man don't talk about economy and soviets. People had to wait in lines for food, clothes and household items everytime, and still not get them most of the time (you had to know people to get stuff, because usualy it was not enough for everyone). In Klaipeda we lived better for sure, because we had a port and there was a big black market at the soviet times. But it was not in dollars, but was in tradable items, no one had enough money and even if they did, there was nothing to buy.

Not saying joining EU was the best move, but it is what it is. And it is certainly beter then soviet union.
 

blondu

Grazie Ale
Nov 9, 2006
27,408
#99
Juventino[RUS];4516565 said:
He even doesn't know that Romanian leader back then, Ion Victor Antonescu, was nazi furer and that only in 1944 Romanian king Mihai I organized revolution to overthrow that Nazi cunt and to join aanti-Hitler coalition :sergio: So what the point for soviet army to kill and rape women and children of friendly army? :lol: jesus :lol: oh and then europeans called it "SOVIET OCCUPATION OF ROMANIA" :rofl: Nobody give a damn that romanian people organized revolution by themselves and asked soviet army to come to romania to protect people :rofl:
yeah we called you all right..who the fuck called you? it was during the war you came you fuckin peasant. antonescu did the right thing then, he wanted to close the collaboration with hitler, then he was executed cuz of the comunism party who influenced a young 18 years old king.

don't try to explain me my country's history
 

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