The Financial Situation (46 Viewers)

italiacalcio10

italiacalcio10

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Liviu said:
@italiacalcio10

I miss his posts saying James is doable for us :broken:
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The last time I calculated it I had us being able to spend at least 100MM net. We have ample balance sheet capacity driven by EBITDA growth. I'd say if we're "conservative", 50-75MM of net spend is likely. If we're more aggressive, 100-125MM of net spend.
We can afford a couple of large signings if we want.

Also the James rumours are beginning again..... ;)

http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Champ...ribuna-allegri-senza-cambi-200773049937.shtml
http://www.itasportpress.it/calciomercato/juventus-torna-di-moda-james-rodriguez/
http://www.ilbianconero.com/a/james-in-partenza-perez-qualcuno-deve-essere-sacrificato-69006
http://www.direttagoal.it/dettaglio/news/3350/james_rodriguez_juventus_tentativo_bianconero
http://www.tuttosport.com/news/calc...riguez_via_da_madrid_juventus_alla_finestra_/
http://sport.tiscali.it/calcio/calciomercato/articoli/la-juventus-assalto-james-rodriguez/

Not like it's concrete or anything, but its fun to start thinking about it again.
 

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donpiero

donpiero

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James and his tranny husband and our new more cosmopolitan logo/brand are a match made in heavens to cement our appeal among the progressive millennials. :touched:
 
The Quazis

The Quazis

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italiacalcio10 said:
The last time I calculated it I had us being able to spend at least 100MM net. We have ample balance sheet capacity driven by EBITDA growth. I'd say if we're "conservative", 50-75MM of net spend is likely. If we're more aggressive, 100-125MM of net spend.
We can afford a couple of large signings if we want.

Also the James rumours are beginning again..... ;)

http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Champ...ribuna-allegri-senza-cambi-200773049937.shtml
http://www.itasportpress.it/calciomercato/juventus-torna-di-moda-james-rodriguez/
http://www.ilbianconero.com/a/james-in-partenza-perez-qualcuno-deve-essere-sacrificato-69006
http://www.direttagoal.it/dettaglio/news/3350/james_rodriguez_juventus_tentativo_bianconero
http://www.tuttosport.com/news/calc...riguez_via_da_madrid_juventus_alla_finestra_/
http://sport.tiscali.it/calcio/calciomercato/articoli/la-juventus-assalto-james-rodriguez/

Not like it's concrete or anything, but its fun to start thinking about it again.
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50mln is very underwhelming. Inter will at least double that.

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enzo

enzo

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v1rtu4l said:
it all depends on how the italian teams do in the champions league. if they drop out after the group stages not much would change.

I do not think that the sponsorship deals would improve, because we are pretty good on that already.
i would even say that it could even get worse for us if we are not the only big fish in italy anymore.

sponsoring companies will not magically create more funds to spend on sponsorships just because there are more proper teams in italy, but simply reallocate what the plan to spend on sponsoring, so instead of us getting the biggest offers a sponsor like Nike could say "dear juve, we give you 90millions over 5 years and if you don't take it there is ac milan (that is in CL too) waiting around the corner to take that deal.".
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On the other side: if the league is not popular they won't even come up with 90mil in the first place.
A popular league helps everybody.
 
italiacalcio10

italiacalcio10

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The Quazis said:
50mln is very underwhelming. Inter will at least double that.

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It depends. If the Juventus is willing to invest, 50 is way too low. But if they want to keep debt levels the same - the annual cash flow probably doesn't permit much more than that. That being said EBITDA (Earnings before tax, interest, depreciation) is growing RAPIDLY, as is revenue. As a result, the companies debt as a percentage of its profit will drop. If the company wants to keep that steady, they can invest more. And if the company is ok with raising debt levels to those of a few years ago...well, that's where 125 million or even 150 could be possible.

Also remember - its net spend I'm talking about. Gross spend could include divestitures.

Imagine we want to be aggressive - 150 million of net spend. That will take us to the top of the healthy range for debt levels. That will also include divestitures:
-Lemina, Zaza, Coman, Asamoah = ~75MM
-Benatia, Cuadrado = ~40MM

Suppose that nets us 35MM in profit. Add that to 150= 185MM. I can't see us going higher than that. That would be obscene. Well, unless we sell Dybala.
 
The Quazis

The Quazis

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I think the chart is wrong. How is it possible that we are 5th most powerful brand and at the same time out of first ten in case of brand's value?

Not to mention we will be no.1 when "J" kicks in.
 
Siamak

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The Quazis said:
I think the chart is wrong. How is it possible that we are 5th most powerful brand and at the same time out of first ten in case of brand's value?

Not to mention we will be no.1 when "J" kicks in.
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Powerful and valuable are compeletly different verbs.

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Zacheryah

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The Quazis said:
I'm not bothered with Inter, that was just an example. We need to be more aggressive on the market to keep up with big boys in Europe.

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Did we need to be more aggressive when we went from less than Milaneese level to 2 CL finals in 6 years time ?
 
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