The 4-yr. old Preacher (7 Viewers)

[AndreaCristiano]

No it's not common sense when ancient laws that should have no place in today's society still apply: no contraception, no pre-marital sex, no homo, no woman priests, priests can't marry or have kids. Again, all these things were in the Bible but the Church chose what it wanted to make law some 2,000 years ago. Maybe these things should've went out with the other "old Jewish traditions" as time went by.

Your wrong on a lot. Let's see for the 1st 125 years priest were allowed to be married so it doesn't say no married priest in the Bible. The priest also had many kids. Contraceptives didn't exist in those days so that also isn't in the Bible. No homo is not only Christianity and at least Christians don't kill homos like Islam or old Judaism. So do you want to make up more stuff that the Bible said?

 

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[JuveJay]

They do, although I suppose it's better than some other religious sects who treat people like it's still the 7th century.

The Bible was compiled centuries afterwords, but the original source scripture is from hundreds of years before Jesus was supposedly even born. I suppose it's about as likely as any of the other religious book origins.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

These are just a few problems with Christianity that I have: they seem to pick and choose what to believe and they do away with a lot of things with the 'it's modern times' excuse. Also the authenticity of the bible doesn't seem to be an issue for them. The fact that the bible was written by people who lived centuries after Christ should be a concern, the fact that Paul pretty much decided what Christianity became is a bit worrying considering how he was so against Christianity. The fact that there are so many similarities with Christianity and Roman Mythology is never mentioned by Christians.

First of all the first copy of the oldest Bible us 58-60 ad which isn't centuries. Secondly the nag hamadi scrolls are even older than that. Also if your referring to Catholicism their are some pagan images over run by Catholicism. Catholicism isn't Christianity it's but a branch. Lastly your prophet was 671 years after Jesus so why should are believe the Koran to be accurate by that logic

 

[AndreaCristiano]

In other words, people who disagree with you.

Exactly.

It has nothing to do with agreeing with me. you would use those above as literal translations and say this should be law. Yet your the same person who will say that Noah's flood was allegory

 

[Zé Tahir]

First of all the first copy of the oldest Bible us 58-60 ad which isn't centuries. Secondly the nag hamadi scrolls are even older than that. Also if your referring to Catholicism their are some pagan images over run by Catholicism. Catholicism isn't Christianity it's but a branch. Lastly your prophet was 671 years after Jesus so why should are believe the Koran to be accurate by that logic

You celebrate Christmas don't you? There are striking similarities/coincidents with pagan holidays.

You didn't answer the part about Paul. I'd love to hear an explanation to that. Also, how the councils of Nicaea influenced Christianity.

I don't get the 671 years after Jesus part...Whats your question? The Quran was kept authentic through the concept of memorization. Whenever a copy of the Qur'an was compiled it was verified by many many different people who had memorized the book and in that way until modern pressing machines were invented (or what not) it was kept valid. Even today there are hundreds of thousands of people who have the book memorized cover-to-cover. They're called 'Hafiz'. Not a single dot has been moved in the scripture because it can alter the meaning. None of the passages are considered out dated and we never had a council that copy/paste/edited the book.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

You celebrate Christmas don't you? There are striking similarities/coincidents with pagan holidays.

You didn't answer the part about Paul. I'd love to hear an explanation to that. Also, how the councils of Nicaea influenced Christianity.

I don't get the 671 years after Jesus part...Whats your question? The Quran was kept authentic through the concept of memorization. Whenever a copy of the Qur'an was compiled it was verified by many many different people who had memorized the book and in that way until modern pressing machines were invented (or what not) it was kept valid. Even today there are hundreds of thousands of people who have the book memorized cover-to-cover. They're called 'Hafiz'. Not a single dot has been moved in the scripture because it can alter the meaning. None of the passages are considered out dated and we never had a council that copy/paste/edited the book.

Yes I know I celebrate Christmas and like I said we replaced pagan holidays with Christian ones , Christmas for example was a pagan which Christianity took over as Jesus birthday, for one because the church knew not when Jesus was born so the used the celebration of Christmas to commemorate the birth of the Light of the world!

Paul according to Christian tradition was Saul of tarsus a persecutor of Christians then seeing Jesus on the road to damascus seeing Jesus becoming a saint. I for one read the scripture and read what Jesus said. I live my life by his words over , peters, pauls, john pauls, or Benedict.

Now onto your memorization. Why is that acceptable for your holy book over 671 years but yet over less than 100 it isnt for mine? You have no idea how many changes were made to your Koran because of that memorization.
Also most theological professors and scientist who study scripture believe that all four gospels even the oldest in luke , come from a common Gospel called Q.

 

[Nicholas]

Kill that kid and his family.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Kill that kid and his family.

wow just wow

 

[JuveJay]

I find religion fascinating from a historical perspective, extremely so. Although I can't help feeling that even the oldest forms have borrowed from legend and belief created over thousands of years of human history, and then refined to suit.

 

[Nicholas]

wow just wow

I'm sorry but at a young age to be doing that he's been poisoned and it's certainly not normal, he's clearly a warped child, his family has also poisoned him. All this brainwashing is child abuse and they should be brought to justice. In the form of death.

 

[IrishZebra]

Funny because the final composition of the bible occurred in the 4th century in Carthage.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I find religion fascinating from a historical perspective, extremely so. Although I can't help feeling that even the oldest forms have borrowed from legend and belief created over thousands of years of human history, and then refined to suit.

I can respect that point of view. Its respectful toward the religious and isnt confrontational. Unlike the majority on here whom are very angry at religion and look at the religious as small minded ignorant people

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Funny because the final composition of the bible occurred in the 4th century in Carthage.

what does that have to do with when the books were written? Just because they were compiled in Nicea that has no bearing on when they were written

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I'm sorry but at a young age to be doing that he's been poisoned and it's certainly not normal, he's clearly a warped child, his family has also poisoned him. All this brainwashing is child abuse and they should be brought to justice. In the form of death.

First of the poisoning is in your opinion many people believe telling their child about their faith and allowing them to believe in that faith is primary, before anything else. Now I have said this is a bit far but your answers are disturbing if not disgusting

 

[Zé Tahir]

Yes I know I celebrate Christmas and like I said we replaced pagan holidays with Christian ones , Christmas for example was a pagan which Christianity took over as Jesus birthday, for one because the church knew not when Jesus was born so the used the celebration of Christmas to commemorate the birth of the Light of the world!

Paul according to Christian tradition was Saul of tarsus a persecutor of Christians then seeing Jesus on the road to damascus seeing Jesus becoming a saint. I for one read the scripture and read what Jesus said. I live my life by his words over , peters, pauls, john pauls, or Benedict.

Now onto your memorization. Why is that acceptable for your holy book over 671 years but yet over less than 100 it isnt for mine? You have no idea how many changes were made to your Koran because of that memorization.
Also most theological professors and scientist who study scripture believe that all four gospels even the oldest in luke , come from a common Gospel called Q.

Yeah but it's not like you just swapped the dates. The rites and stories are strikingly similar. December 25th was celebrated as the birth of the Sun God,Sol Invictus. Christians instead celebrate the birth of the son of God. Jesus wasn't even born on December 25th yet that's the day you celebrate it on. The Bible is not like Qur'an in that the Qur'an is said to be the exact words of God revealed to Prophet Muhammad. Now I don't expect you to believe that but looking at it from a theological aspect you can see how everything that we're told to do came directly from the 'horses mouth'. Whereas Christians have kinda customized various beliefs and practices themselves. The Qur'an hasn't been changed, this is a fact. You can go compare any recent copy of the Qur'an with oldest Qur'an in existence, known as the Uthman Qur'an, and you won't find a single alteration to the text. I still don't get the 671 year argument...are you saying how can it be authentic because it was compiled 671 years after Christ?

 

[IrishZebra]

what does that have to do with when the books were written? Just because they were compiled in Nicea that has no bearing on when they were written

You never know what occurs when these things of collated, it's entirely possible they nuked a gospel because it didn't suit their political needs.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Yeah but it's not like you just swapped the dates. The rites and stories are strikingly similar. December 25th was celebrated as the birth of the Sun God,Sol Invictus. Christians instead celebrate the birth of the son of God. Jesus wasn't even born on December 25th yet that's the day you celebrate it on. The Bible is not like Qur'an in that the Qur'an is said to be the exact words of God revealed to Prophet Muhammad. Now I don't expect you to believe that but looking at it from a theological aspect you can see how everything that we're told to do came directly from the 'horses mouth'. Whereas Christians have kinda customized various beliefs and practices themselves. The Qur'an hasn't been changed, this is a fact. You can go compare any recent copy of the Qur'an with oldest Qur'an in existence, known as the Uthman Qur'an, and you won't find a single alteration to the text. I still don't get the 671 year argument...are you saying how can it be authentic because it was compiled 671 years after Christ?

Umm neither has the Bible compare any modern copy to the original texts the same so I dont understand your argument. Also Jesus birth storywas the way it was before the church decided to use the day for Christmas. Like I said the early church did not know when Jesus was exactly born, so they used this day when more and more pagan nations were incorporated into the holy roman empire. Years after the bible was written and the story of Jesus birth was told

 

[AndreaCristiano]

You never know what occurs when these things of collated, it's entirely possible they nuked a gospel because it didn't suit their political needs.

We have almost all the gospels available so you can see what was omitted and why, also like I stated earlier there is an original gospel called Q look it up

 

[IrishZebra]

There's no document though, correct?


But DO we know we have all the gospels? There could be hundreds nobody has ever seen, it's certainly plausible.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

There's no document though, correct?


But DO we know we have all the gospels? There could be hundreds nobody has ever seen, it's certainly plausible.

the opposite is also true