The 4-yr. old Preacher (16 Viewers)

[Trequartista]

Because i can tell you this the experience was special and it influenced me deeply changed my life direction forever

Ok.

If a Hindu says that he had a personal experience with Shiva, Kali, Krishna or another Hindu deity, do you think that he was hallucinating, or not?

 

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[IrishZebra]

The Catholic Daemons are actually pagan gods bastardised in order to combat paganism

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Ok.

If a Hindu says that he had a personal experience with Shiva, Kali, Krishna or another Hindu deity, do you think that he was hallucinating, or not?

I can not say if or what he saw was authentic, but i will not automatically dismiss it as a hallucination

 

[Trequartista]

I can not say if or what he saw was authentic, but i will not automatically dismiss it as a hallucination

I didn't dismiss what you experienced as an hallucination, I said that it is quite possible that you were hallucinating.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

The Catholic Daemons are actually pagan gods bastardised in order to combat paganism

thats not completely true some did become labeled as demons but then again most of them are. look at lilith shes in the old testament shes a succubis there, before that though she was adams first wife. That has nothing to do with the catholics

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I didn't dismiss what you experienced as an hallucination, I said that it is quite possible that you were hallucinating.

Sure anything is possible, but in my eyes and heart it wasnt

 

[Trequartista]

Why would you automatically believe any Christian who say that they had a revelation but you wouldn't apply the same standard on a Hindu saying the same thing?

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Why would you automatically believe any Christian who say that they had a revelation but you wouldn't apply the same standard with a Hindu?

WHOA i never said any Christian! Look back at my comment I said some people have revelations SOME not all

 

[Trequartista]

WHOA i never said any Christian! Look back at my comment I said some people have revelations SOME not all

How do you know that a person who says that he talked with God was not hallucinating??

Ps: If you feel that you had a revelation, I am not saying that you were hallucinating. I am saying that it is quite possible that you did.

I am not trying to disrespect you, I am merely trying to understand your point of view.

Because the person wasnt hallucinating

Your words, not mines.

How would you know which one is saying the truth and which one is not?

 

[IrishZebra]

thats not completely true some did become labeled as demons but then again most of them are. look at lilith shes in the old testament shes a succubis there, before that though she was adams first wife. That has nothing to do with the catholics

I meant to one's that became prominent after the Catholic Church had been founded or rather, the imagery of them, such as Pan and Lucifer.

 

[bianconero]

What about Gandi?

And by the way what kind of loving god creates children then brings them up in a world of devils, cancer, pain, and darkness?

I really want to know the answer to this question.

If god is love then how could s/he tolerate suffering on such a grade scale?

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Your words, not mines.

How would you know which one is saying the truth and which one is not?

of all people your gonna pick and choose my words

 

[Trequartista]

of all people your gonna pick and choose my words

Well, it certainly appears to me that you were saying that if a person says he had a personal experience, than he was not hallucinating.

I am not picking and choosing your words.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I really want to know the answer to this question.

If god is love then how could he tolerate suffering on such a grade scale?

Because the suffering is the consequence of our free will. He doesnt make our decisions, we do. Our choices and free will bring the suffering. For instance God doesnt make the drunk driver drive drunk and kill someone. The driver chooses to drink till inebriation ignoring his conscience
and then drive. His decision then causes an accident and a death. His decisions not Gods

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Well, it certainly appears to me that you were saying that if a person says he had a personal experience, than he was not hallucinating.

I am not picking and choosing your words.

What I said earlier is that some people actually have revelations, that in no way says that every christian does and others dont

 

[IrishZebra]

We haven't had a good 'religion' thread in quite some time.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I meant to one's that became prominent after the Catholic Church had been founded or rather, the imagery of them, such as Pan and Lucifer.

Lucifers imagery comes from judiaisim first my friend you know the adversary, the snake in the garden etc

 

[Trequartista]

What I said earlier is that some people actually have revelations, that in no way says that every christian does and others dont

This seems pretty clear to me:

How do you know that a person who says that he talked with God was not hallucinating??.

Because the person wasnt hallucinating

I never said that you said that every Christians have revelation, I said that you would believe a Christian who would say that he had a revelation but you wouldn't apply the same standard with a Hindu, for example.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

We haven't had a good 'religion' thread in quite some time.

This one is actually very good, even though it seems to be me against the world lol

 

[AndreaCristiano]

This seems pretty clear to me:

umm that wasnt the question that I answered that answer with. That answer was about my experience