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it was so funny as I read your posts you were repeating everything i said , I kept saying why is he angry at me as he agrees with me lol
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The bible is not exact on any ideas and is subject to heavy interpretation. Jesus in fact was against stoning. The idea of stoning non-virgin brides or brides who have committed adultery is openly discouraged in the new testament when Jesus shames a crowd participating in the stoning of a woman and averts the execution. The new testament is considered by many Christians as an amendment to the old. Its easy to pick and choose though when you're trying to make a point isn't it? How about you start using text to back up your hate if you know the bible so well?
7:53 And every man went unto his own house.
8:1 ¶ Jesus went unto the mount of Olives.
8:2 And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.
8:3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,
8:4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
8:5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
8:6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.
8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
8:8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
8:9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
8:10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
A very valuable and I think ethical lesson the bible is teaching here. It is one of the most well known stories in the bible. Let me put it in simple terms for you. This is how Christianity works - Jesus>Moses.
7:53 And every man went unto his own house.
8:1 ¶ Jesus went unto the mount of Olives.
8:2 And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.
8:3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,
8:4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
8:5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
8:6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.
8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
8:8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
8:9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
8:10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
A very valuable and I think ethical lesson the bible is teaching here. It is one of the most well known stories in the bible. Let me put it in simple terms for you. This is how Christianity works - Jesus>Moses.
EXACTLY! OLD testament is gone the new covenant is the new testament. That's what I said above about the tithing. Once Jesus abolished the old testament his laws arose as the binding law. Haters pick and choose so as to make Christianity look bad. The law of Moses is no longer binding as the law given by Jesus is the new covenant
Atheists are notoriously one-eyed. They're extremely subjective in their analysis of religious texts. That's why you can never take them seriously. The guys from South Park best described them as that annoying kid walking around the school yard telling everyone that Santa isn't real. There's no benefit, just personal satisfaction and ego. That's what ideology is.
No doubt. Its extremely ironic. The only way you can legitimise these religious arguments is by using text as evidence but the issue is that the majority of atheists (like IZ) haven't read the bible, the Quran or the Torah or at least haven't read more than a few quotes off the internet that are pertinent to their argument only.
Even if they have they pick and choose the way the words fit to point out that the dogma is oppressive etc etc. Just like you pointed out. They
use things like the tithing from the old testament yet, they disavow the fact that that law is dead along with the other old testament virtues. They want to use the old laws to say how negative and oppressive Christianity is yet they refuse to admit that that is no longer a valid argument since the Resurrection
use things like the tithing from the old testament yet, they disavow the fact that that law is dead along with the other old testament virtues. They want to use the old laws to say how negative and oppressive Christianity is yet they refuse to admit that that is no longer a valid argument since the Resurrection
It comes down to evidence and there is sufficient evidence to refute what IZ is saying beyond doubt. I don't even consider myself that Christian but I respect all religions and peoples right to practice it as well as peoples right to not practice it or believe it. The fact that such large groups of people have such opposing views on spirituality is always going to be cause for argument, but there needs to be respect for rights of belief and most importantly there needs to be transperancy. People (on here particularly) need to start sighting text and using evidence. Otherwise the argument loses all legitimacy and becomes a propaganda war.
Well said! You want to or not want to believe that's on that person but respect for ones belief is key. That's why o brought up the point of them all calling this child abuse and how no one is out raged by the pageants and or other stuff. Basically equating people like David koresh with actual Christians
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