Tactics and Formations (59 Viewers)

[JuveE46]

Good enough for most league matches but McKenie is not good enough for a 3 man mid for top teams or CL.

I'd rather play MDS at RB and cuad at mid...
But if McKenie is on the field at 433 Danilo needs to be at RB.


I would rather give 442 a try

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Cuad_Zaka_Locatelli - Mck
-----------------Dybs
--------------Vlahovic

 

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[ilmetronome]

For allegri:
1. Locatelli/arthur as regista for sure. No way Zakaria as anchor mid infront of defense line.
2. He play 442 or 451 when defending. 4 at back line and at least 4 at mid line. If we play dybala morata vlahovic upfront, who do you think would fill 1 slot remaining at mid line?
Morata and dybala never played that role this season. They were always in front 2 or alone when defending. I really doubt vlahovic will be at mid line.

 

[Siamak]

 

[Jäger]

Not sure I trust Pellegrini in a 3 man defense

 

[Siamak]

 

[rainhard]

Not sure I trust Pellegrini in a 3 man defense

We will lose if we use 3-2-3-1 formation , I think that picture is our next season players and the position they able to play (excluding player with expiring contract such Dybala, Cuad,etc)

 

[Gigiventus]

I understand that one of them gets bench to not burn both of our central players, but our best midfield must have both Locatelli and Arthur.

When teams press us McKennie offers 0 serenity on the ball, with him it's either misspass, or a good pass to launch an attack, but not the pressure relief we need in our half. Rabiot can give the calm pass, but more often than not lacks the vision to choose the right option accurately.

Arthur is a very different level than those at keeping and recycling the ball, and Locatelli is just better at everything.

 

[s4tch]

We will lose if we use 3-2-3-1 formation

that would be generous towards any opponent.

playing with 11 players but starting rabiot isn't necessary more effective either.

 

[Amer]

I'm starting to hate our hybrid 352 433 343 4231 4321 formation.

 

[rainhard]

that would be generous towards any opponent.

playing with 11 players but starting rabiot isn't necessary more effective either.

We need to ask the coach for the decision to keep use Rabiot time after time while we can see how poor he is

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Fucking garbage coach who doesn't know what is counter pressing

 

[s4tch]

Fucking garbage coach who doesn't know what is counter pressing

which current juve players are suited for counter pressing?

 

[suligodsilla]

Play 4-4-2 diamond and let no one play as play maker. Play with 10 man

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

which current juve players are suited for counter pressing?

Vlahovic, Morata, Rabiot, Mcburger, Zakaria, Locatelli can easily apply high pressure

 

[MikeM]

Vlahovic, Morata, Rabiot, Mcburger, Zakaria, Locatelli can easily apply high pressure

I'd add Cuadrado, Danilo, De Ligt and I find Bonucci better in high pressure for anticipating hurried passes then in his own box actually defending.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Even Lille has applied more pressure against Chelsea than Juventus against Villarreal with genius Allegri strategy to sitback, spam long balls to Vlahovic and inshallah that it will work

 

[LiquidPLP]

which current juve players are suited for counter pressing?

Is this even a serious question?

Let's reverse the question then: which players are suited for deep-defensive setup for longer pieces of matches? To me it's just Chiellini. Maybe I'd throw in Bonucci, as long as his bodyguard is Chiellini. That's it I'd say.

 

[s4tch]

Is this even a serious question?

of course. and i learned that rabiot, bonucci and morata can press, and since you suggest this with a straight face, you genuinely think that they are able to do that week in, week out. that's something i didn't know.

for me it's cuadrado, snacks, de ligt and loca. (chiesa too) and i haven't seen too much from zakaria. not a lot, especially if you consider that we tend to lose the ball easily and we're very easily countered with a high defensive line. that's something everyone hated with pirlo. and now suddenly everyone wants the high defensive line back with players who might be able to run but can't keep the ball.

high press makes sense if you can get the ball away from the opposition, actually keep the ball comfortably, avoid being countered and pass the ball forward. good luck with that if you have rabiot, bonucci (who can't tackle despite being a defender and the literally the last player i'd have to stop a counter with a famous ass tackle), morata who falls on the ground at the lightest touch, or players like pellegrini, sandro, mds et al who need no introduction. with morata, cuadrado or snacks, trying to exploit counters when you have spaces look like a better approach to me.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

of course. and i learned that rabiot, bonucci and morata can press, and since you suggest this with a straight face, you genuinely think that they are able to do that week in, week out. that's something i didn't know.

for me it's cuadrado, snacks, de ligt and loca. (chiesa too) and i haven't seen too much from zakaria. not a lot, especially if you consider that we tend to lose the ball easily and we're very easily countered with a high defensive line. that's something everyone hated with pirlo. and now suddenly everyone wants the high defensive line back with players who might be able to run but can't keep the ball.

high press makes sense if you can get the ball away from the opposition, actually keep the ball comfortably, avoid being countered and pass the ball forward. good luck with that if you have rabiot, bonucci (who can't tackle despite being a defender and the literally the last player i'd have to stop a counter with a famous ass tackle), morata who falls on the ground at the lightest touch, or players like pellegrini, sandro, mds et al who need no introduction. with morata, cuadrado or snacks, trying to exploit counters when you have spaces look like a better approach to me.

And keep in mind they have these numbers with not using counter pressing at all, with sit at the back strategy. People shit on Morata here and there but the truth is that we don't even use him as a lone forward with proper support, poor guy have to work his ass off match after match after match, now we have a same story with Vlahovic, who have 0 support, this team doesn't feed him with the through balls, great high/low crosses, he's forever alone up there against 2 central defenders

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As for Rabiot ppl only see the shit side of him

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

ake and soule should be getting minutes. if we had guardiola, zidane or klopp they would have get their chances. i guess allegri knows better.