Türkiye (30 Viewers)

[Eddy]

then how come most of these European political parties have socialist in their name

Wasn't Hitler's party called "National Socialist Party" and they weren't even leftists but hardcore rightists/fascists ?

 

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[IrishZebra]

A Fascist by any other name would be as closeted gay.

 

[Hængebøffer]

Who the fuck wrote this?

Boh, it's Andy.

 

[Nzoric]

Albania,
Belgium - along with every other party (I dislike the EU and don't think we should even count Belgium as a country)
Denmark - in coalition
France
Greece - coalition
Norway - coalition
Serbia - coalition

There are 2 countries in Europe in which the executive in solely a named 'socialist' party. The political economy of coalition politics is a matter for another day.


Of course conflating Social Democracy and Centrally Planned Economy makes no sense.



And as always, the US Government is the biggest 'socialist' employer on earth wasting money for the DOD, employing millions and spending millions...

Serbia has a socialist party.

 

[Hængebøffer]

Serbia has a socialist party.

Denmark too

 

[swag]

Most of the evidence by the scientists is flawed on two things:
- correlation doesn't mean causation. (No SUVs on Mars.)
- focusing on irrelevant things like the artic ice cap while forgetting about the antartica. (I like the polar bears, shame for them)

But it's not like it's strange so much bad science is in this field. The funding from the enviromental taxes they get is enormous. I guess you like being taxed. The other reason so many people believe in the scary global warming is the liberal media. They have the power to persuade the mindless sheep to believe anything. You didn't say anthing about the winter, I guess that's worthless compared to all the "science".

Look, I could waste my breath citing evidence and studies, but you're going to ignore them and selectively review them anyway. If someone chooses to remain ignorant and believe in tooth fairies and that humanity is derived from space alien corpses dropped into the Hawaiian volcanoes, that is your prerogative. There are no laws against ignorance.

The telltale sign I note in your response is that it's purely an emotional reaction: taxes, liberal media, blah blah blah. No facts. No evidence. No rationale. No science. Which is like trying to have a rational conversation about homosexuality with a Mormon. It's pointless.

Perhaps the biggest danger of all here is the entitled sense of personal scientific qualification: I may have gotten a C in high school earth science class, therefore I trust my own opinions before anyone who has committed their lives to understanding the field after getting their PhDs and reviewing/writing research papers. Which is about the equivalent of saying that you're best friends with Justin Bieber because you see him on entertainment TV shows every day and thus know everything about him. And then hide behind emotional responses as the underlying motivator for your beliefs.

Hey, faith-based science... what a concept. Good luck with that, sir. And good luck that evolutionary biology doesn't leave you as roadkill.

 

[Nzoric]

Wasn't Hitler's party called "National Socialist Party" and they weren't even leftists but hardcore rightists/fascists ?

rightist/fascist is a terrible distinction or lack thereof.

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Denmark too

Not really. Atleast the part with socialism in it's name is far from it.

 

[Hængebøffer]

rightist/fascist is a terrible distinction or lack thereof.

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Not really. Atleast the part with socialism in it's name is far from it.

You didn't get it

 

[Trequartista]

i wonder why you and your buddy dont take the same stance towards libel and incitations to violence convictions

I'm with the Supreme Court's interpretation of the First Amendment, that the limit of Freedom of Speech is when someone calls for violence or illegal actions.

Insulting someone is not the same thing and should be allowed.

 

[IrishZebra]

Serbia has a socialist party.

Most countries on earth including the USA have a socialist party.
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[Eddy]

rightist/fascist is a terrible distinction or lack thereof.

If fascists aren't hardcore rightists, then I don't know what is. I don't like this left-right analogy but you gotta draw a line somewhere.

 

[Nzoric]

If fascists aren't hardcore rightists, then I don't know what is. I don't like this left-right analogy but you gotta draw a line somewhere.

But 'rightist' does not include many of the defining concepts of fascism. I'm just saying that the distinction is poor, because conservatives can be 'hardcore', which would make it hardcore rightism, though it's not fascism, is it?

 

[IrishZebra]

But 'rightist' does not include many of the defining concepts of fascism.

Hardcore would clarify it though.

 

[Eddy]

But 'rightist' does not include many of the defining concepts of fascism. I'm just saying that the distinction is poor, because conservatives can be 'hardcore', which would make it hardcore rightism, though it's not fascism, is it?

True, I can agree with that.

 

[Nzoric]

Hardcore would clarify it though.

How, what is the core of right policy ?

 

[Trequartista]

I agree with Nzoric, fascism is not strictly rightist, it is a combination of leftist and rightist policies/points of views.

 

[Eddy]

Just having a line to compare which idea is on which side is dull enough.

 

[Trequartista]

Just having a line to compare which idea is on which side is dull enough.

Agreed, I don't believe in the left-right dichotomy, it is way too simplistic.

 

[Hængebøffer]

Nihilism ftw

 

[IrishZebra]

Of course, I have been branded both too liberal and too conservative practically in the same day.

I just don't like gypsies...