Summer mercato thread 2025-26 (420 Viewers)

Bufi

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Dec 21, 2010
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  • Bufi

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The answer is very simple.

We've been told that Juventus doesn't have the money to spend on signings, so overpaying for a player like Kolo Muani and making him the highest-paid player on the team is an unnecessary luxury.

Livepool has money, and overpaying for a player like Writz is a luxury they can afford...

As I said, my problem isn't Kolo Muani. I think he's a good player, but for the same price we're paying for Kolo, we could bring in two or three players to fill the necessary spots on the team.

But we have to many players in all positions but most of them are average..so it is.time to get quality player.
You can see there is no striker in market,every striker costs 50m+.


Kolo has been with us, and he was very good so I think it is a best option for us. And I think it is underated here because of his situation with psg.

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Liverpool buy Wirtz for 120M because they can sell the likes of Diaz for 80M

Why is it that only JJ cannot take advantage of this inflated market and sell players for a higher value? Even 9th place Milan sold some of their surplus players for pretty good sums.

What would you say if we just terminate Vlahovic's contract and hand him over to Milan for free?

We have sold average players,no one wants to buy them. You think that everyone is stupid in our management? If you could be a director in a team would you sign any of weah,mbangula,vlahovic and so on for more than 20m+? I dont think so.

What should juve management do with vlahovic ? No one has offered money for him,you think vlahovic would accept to.go in arabia?
 

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MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
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Liverpool buy Wirtz for 120M because they can sell the likes of Diaz for 80M

Why is it that only JJ cannot take advantage of this inflated market and sell players for a higher value? Even 9th place Milan sold some of their surplus players for pretty good sums.

What would you say if we just terminate Vlahovic's contract and hand him over to Milan for free?
Because we always HAVE to sell. The prices get cut in half when other teams know you have NO CHOICE!
 
Feb 12, 2006
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The ONLY WAY that #AtleticoMadrid can sign Nico #Gonzalez is the departure of Connor Gallagher! Only if the Englishman were to leave would the doors open for the Argentine. [
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To be honest, Atletico Madrid don't even want to spend what we want for Nico, It is only Simeone that is pushing for him, the club over all have never been overly keen on him, and why would they? they know he's overrated and over priced
 

cimenk

Senior Member
Jul 23, 2008
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Milan after Nkunku now… why aren’t we chasing this on a loan + option/obligation? Can cover for Yildiz and can play a ST
Chelsea only want to sell. I remember Bayern also want him and it wasnt happen.
I dont know if Chelsea will agree to €30m valuation now as reported.

But if we go to Nkunku, We must forget about Kolo. I think we focus to try for Kolo for now
 
Apr 15, 2005
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Milan after Nkunku now… why aren’t we chasing this on a loan + option/obligation? Can cover for Yildiz and can play a ST
I like Nkunku but he doesn’t seem like the same player he was at Leipzig. Injuries have ruined him and JJ is the last club in the world that should be taking chances with half crippled players


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Sep 16, 2020
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His confidence is on another level.
He know that he won't get 12m anywhere anymore. 8m wages for multiple years maybe the best he can get next summer. That's why he is keen on go for free to ask signing fee so that it can be close to average above 10m per year.
His eye is for only money now. He doesn't care if he is sent to next gen or not.
 
Jul 15, 2002
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Ok it looks Kolo Muani is going to happen but the key difference is that the 60m price tag is split as 5+55. And it looks we will sell Savona >13m. In the fist year, Muani will cost us -18m (5m loan and 13m in gross salary). He would cost us 24m per year in the 2nd year but by then Vlahovic is truly off the books anyway.

So bear in mind. Before the Luiz sale, it was reported by an Italian financial journalist that the economic effect of our activity up to that point was +EU3m.

Since then we sold Luiz. The economic impact of that is +12m (3m loan fee + 9m on his gross salary). So the balance right now would be +15m. You add a Savona sale who earns 2.5m in gross salary and we get a plusvulenza of ~14m - so the economic impact would be +16m.

So +3m + Luiz+ Savona = +31m. Take off -18m for Muani and we are still at +13m. Then take off -8m for Zhegrova (18m over 5 years is 3.6m in amortization at ~4m in gross salary). We still have a positive economic balance of +5m. This is without selling Nico and Vlahovic. So worst case that would be the end of the mercato in that scenario.

I suspect the Muani, Savona and Zhegrova deals will happen first.

Now Vlahovic. A Vlahovic-Saelemakers swap deal would be great for BOTH clubs. If its a Saelemakers +18m for Vlahovic (with Saelemakers valued at 12m). Milan and Juventus would share a Vlahovic termination/sign on bonus to ensure he makes his 12m net for the financial year. Milan would book a plusvulenza on Saelemakers of ~11m and the Vlahovic contract costs them -12 (30 over 5 years + gross salary of ~12m). Juve books a plusvulenza on Vlahovic of 12m and saves us 22m in gross salary. The economic benefit would be huge for Juventus even if we agreed to pay a gross termination fee of 6m. Milan could pay a one off sign on bonus of 6m gross. Saelemakers costs Juve -5m per year (2.5m amortization and 2.5m gross salary which is more than gets at Milan). Milan get their striker at little incremental cost, we benefit hugely financially to reinvest elsewhere and also pick up a player who fills wing back for both sides.

Nico Gonzales if sold at a 2+20m would save us +8m (2m for the loan fee and 6m in saved gross salary).

These deals could have a positive financial benefit of +30-40m. That would allow us to go for a high profile left footed central defender and still be in the black. Hypothetically could add a Calafiori profile defender at 45m with 4m gross salary easily (which would cost 14-15mpa). Of course that is only hypothetically. More realistic we could add Beraldo from PSG at a far lower cost and even add a midfielder potentially.

If Comoli managed to pull all of that off, then I would give a very high rating for this mercato.
 
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DanielSz

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Sep 6, 2014
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Ok it looks Kolo Muani is going to happen but the key difference is that the 60m price tag is split as 5+55. And it looks we will sell Savona >13m. In the fist year, Muani will cost us -18m (5m loan and 13m in gross salary). He would cost us 24m per year in the 2nd year but by then Vlahovic is truly off the books anyway.

So bear in mind. Before the Luiz sale, it was reported by an Italian financial journalist that the economic effect of our activity up to that point was +EU3m.

Since then we sold Luiz. The economic impact of that is +12m (3m loan fee + 9m on his gross salary). So the balance right now would be +15m. You add a Savona sale who earns 2.5m in gross salary and we get a plusvulenza of ~14m - so the economic impact would be +16m.

So +3m + Luiz+ Savona = +31m. Take off -18m for Muani and we are still at +13m. Then take off -8m for Zhegrova (18m over 5 years is 3.6m in amortization at ~4m in gross salary). We still have a positive economic balance of +5m. This is without selling Nico and Vlahovic. So worst case that would be the end of the mercato in that scenario.

I suspect the Muani, Savona and Zhegrova deals will happen first.

Now Vlahovic. A Vlahovic-Saelemakers swap deal would be great for BOTH clubs. If its a Saelemakers +18m for Vlahovic (with Saelemakers valued at 12m). Milan and Juventus would share a Vlahovic termination/sign on bonus to ensure he makes his 12m net for the financial year. Milan would book a plusvulenza on Saelemakers of ~11m and the Vlahovic contract costs them -12 (30 over 5 years + gross salary of ~12m). Juve books a plusvulenza on Vlahovic of 12m and saves us 22m in gross salary. The economic benefit would be huge for Juventus even if we agreed to pay a gross termination fee of 6m. Milan could pay a one off sign on bonus of 6m gross. Saelemakers costs Juve -5m per year (2.5m amortization and 2.5m gross salary which is more than gets at Milan). Milan get their striker at little incremental cost, we benefit hugely financially to reinvest elsewhere and also pick up a player who fills wing back for both sides.

Nico Gonzales if sold at a 2+20m would save us +8m (2m for the loan fee and 6m in saved gross salary).

These deals could have a positive financial benefit of +30-40m. That would allow us to go for a high profile left footed central defender and still be in the black. Hypothetically could add a Calafiori profile defender at 45m with 4m gross salary easily (which would cost 14-15mpa). Of course that is only hypothetically. More realistic we could add Beraldo from PSG at a far lower cost and even add a midfielder potentially.

If Comoli managed to pull all of that off, then I would give a very high rating for this mercato.
Comolli will get this done in four days lol.
 

Espectro

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Jul 12, 2002
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I'm impressed by the lengths some of you go to try to convince yourselves that we're not overpaying for Kolo Muani, and even more so trying to think that in 4 days we're going to have a good end to the market.

And believe me, I don't mean this as a bad thing. Your determination and imagination are impressive.

Its a shame that at september 1 you will wake up to a harsh reality..
 
Jul 15, 2002
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Comolli will get this done in four days lol.
Yeh its a lot. However, Savona, Muani and Zhegrova I think it certainly possible. Nico would be last minute depending if the Milan-Saelemakers deal happens. If it doesn't, then a Molina swap for Nico could happen.

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I'm impressed by the lengths some of you go to try to convince yourselves that we're not overpaying for Kolo Muani, and even more so trying to think that in 4 days we're going to have a good end to the market.

And believe me, I don't mean this as a bad thing. Your determination and imagination are impressive.

Its a shame that at september 1 you will wake up to a harsh reality..

Yes we are overpaying for Muani. Few would disagree. It is what it is due to circumstance.
 

Alin

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Jul 27, 2015
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I'm impressed by the lengths some of you go to try to convince yourselves that we're not overpaying for Kolo Muani, and even more so trying to think that in 4 days we're going to have a good end to the market.

And believe me, I don't mean this as a bad thing. Your determination and imagination are impressive.

Its a shame that at september 1 you will wake up to a harsh reality..
Yes we are obviously being pushed towards overpaying due to several factors, but frankly whether its €60M or €70M in total shouldn’t really matter anymore at this stage, point in case is that we need him and we will be a stronger team with him here rather than without…

And as i said in a previous post, it’s not like we’d be saving the difference for anyone better, so wouldn’t stress too much over it.
 

Siamak

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Aug 13, 2013
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He know that he won't get 12m anywhere anymore. 8m wages for multiple years maybe the best he can get next summer. That's why he is keen on go for free to ask signing fee so that it can be close to average above 10m per year.
His eye is for only money now. He doesn't care if he is sent to next gen or not.
He laughs at the stupidity of our managers every day. No club in Europe would pay him 5 or 6 million, our managers are stupid enough to pay him 10 million.
 

DanielSz

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Sep 6, 2014
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I'm impressed by the lengths some of you go to try to convince yourselves that we're not overpaying for Kolo Muani, and even more so trying to think that in 4 days we're going to have a good end to the market.

And believe me, I don't mean this as a bad thing. Your determination and imagination are impressive.

Its a shame that at september 1 you will wake up to a harsh reality..
market dictates value. You think piccoli, Lucca, and krstovic are worth 30M+?
 

Robee

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Jun 21, 2011
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I'm impressed by the lengths some of you go to try to convince yourselves that we're not overpaying for Kolo Muani, and even more so trying to think that in 4 days we're going to have a good end to the market.

And believe me, I don't mean this as a bad thing. Your determination and imagination are impressive.

Its a shame that at september 1 you will wake up to a harsh reality..
Overspending for someone who can perform for your club, is forgotten in the end.

Overspending for someone you want to sell the next year is what really hurt the club in years past. So I guess it depends on his performances, as always....
 

Siamak

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Aug 13, 2013
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DUSAN TO #MILAN (Play on words between to hell and to #Milan)
#JUVE-#KOLO!

#Milan is getting closer to the demands for #Vlahovic, #Comolli on the move for the Frenchman

The pressure by #Allegri for the Serb has convinced the rossonero club, but the yes from the striker is missing. #Juve increases the offer to #PSG (5 million for the loan, 55 for the redemption): #KoloMuani never this close to coming back, regardless of #Vlahovic.

#Yildiz, what numbers! #Tudor always starts at 1-0 with him.

Champions League: at 6 PM, nerve-wracking draw for the 4 Italians
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Discount and breakthrough

#PSG decreased the demand and the bianconeri started speaking again about the Frenchman.

#Juve, 60 million to send #Muani to #Tudor

#Comolli accelerates for the striker even if #Vlahovic keeps rejecting every offer and risks leaving for free in a year.

An English Nightmare
Champions League: at 6 PM the draw for #Napoli, #Inter, #Atalanta and #Juve

In the Montecarlo draw, #Chivu in the first pot, #Tudor and #Juric in the second and #Conte in the third. From #Liverpool to #City, the Premier League big clubs to be avoided. It will start on Tuesday September 16. The #Fenerbahçe of #Mourinho eliminated.
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#KOLO TO YOU #JUVE (Play on words with 'ecco a te Juve' meaning here you are Juve)

On Monday it will be over: sprint for the strikers

#PSG opens up: 60 million. The bianconeri are now assessing if they should say yes to the deal without the exit of #Vlahovic

Champions League

Italy is bending over backwards (also reference to 4 teams)
#Napoli and #Inter threaten the big teams. #Juve and #Atalanta could do it.
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DanielSz

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Sep 6, 2014
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According to reports by @GianniBalzarini and @romeoagresti in the live broadcast of @ilbianconerocom, #Napoli would have put on the table an offer of 35 million euros for Dusan #Vlahović. However, Comolli refused, irritated by the way Mr. #DeLaurentiis handled the #Osimhen matter, even going so far as to insert an "anti #Juventus" clause
 

Alin

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Jul 27, 2015
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Regarding Nico Gonzalez’s and Vlahovic’s imminent exits i think the talks will drag on till the very last day but eventually we will most likely lower our stance to facilitate their immediate departure, we can’t afford to keep such expensive benchwarmers so it’s difficult to imagine seeing any of them sticking around for much longer if there are indeed clubs interested to make us an offer.

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According to reports by @GianniBalzarini and @romeoagresti in the live broadcast of @ilbianconerocom, #Napoli would have put on the table an offer of 35 million euros for Dusan #Vlahović. However, Comolli refused, irritated by the way Mr. #DeLaurentiis handled the #Osimhen matter, even going so far as to insert an "anti #Juventus" clause
Sure… :lol:

Only part i believe from there is that Napoli tried to go for Vlahovic, but us turning it down is likely to do with their offer being only about half of what it’s rumored there, that’s if they even made an offer and not just a inquiry.
 

Alin

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Jul 27, 2015
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Comolli has shown to be disciplined, its not a stretch to believe he rejected napoli out of principle. I doubt they offered 35M though.
Yeah, i wouldn’t be surprised if we actually turned down a lowball offer from them, but we can 100% rest assured we would have shipped him out to just about anywhere if someone had put even just a bit over €20M on the table.
 

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