Summer Mercato Thread 2019-20 (57 Viewers)

[MagicAardvark]

We seem to be going crazy with the wages these days.

Got to wonder how sustainable this is and whether we are going to have issues in a few seasons when we inevitably try to get rid of him.

So looks like:
Cancelo is on 3 mil
Danilo is currently on 5 mil,

so its a meet half way kind of deal. I dont imagine Danilo wants to almost half his salary by taking Cancelos pay.

 

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[lgorTudor]

Have you gotten Belle's yet?

You should have seen the Zollbeamte's face

 

[italiacalcio10]

So looks like:
Cancelo is on 3 mil
Danilo is currently on 5 mil,

so its a meet half way kind of deal. I dont imagine Danilo wants to almost half his salary by taking Cancelos pay.

Cancelo earns €5.25 gross. Danilo will earn €5.1 gross.

€1M net in England costs €1.8 gross.
€1M net in Italy costs €1.27 gross.

Manchester would be paying about €9.1M in income statement expenses to pay him €5M.. We would pay only €6.4M. And at €4M only €5.1M gross, less than Cancelo’s €5.25M.

Juventus is actively looking for swaps in order to reduce their payroll, which will give them capital gains and capacity for further signings. I don’t like this deal but if this leads to acquisitions of guys like Pogba, Eriksen or Neymar, I’m all for it.


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[Quetzalcoatl]

Why no thread yet for Danilo? @Mark

Anyway, exaggeration aside, from people who've seen him regularly at City, how good or bad is he?

 

[icemaη]

We seem to be going crazy with the wages these days.

Got to wonder how sustainable this is and whether we are going to have issues in a few seasons when we inevitably try to get rid of him.

With the new tax laws, the net effect on our books will be the same.

 

[pavelnel]

We must live in different environments then. I suppose in your society there is no respect for one another or to any ideals and ideas and that''s just sad to me. Then again, it might just be you...

Getting back to Pogba. To you it may not be a big deal and to me it is. He had possibilities to handle it way better, but he did not care enough to do so. So yeah, he can go f... off as far, as i'm concerned. And i do not think our board looked enough for the alternatives. Last few rumours makes me question their decision making a lot.

It is not just him but at least half of the world population are like him. You know, the people that adore Trump, Putin, Xi Jinping, Duterte, Salvini , Orban. They are the same as the people they vote for or keep in power. That is the plain truth.

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[Mark]

Why no thread yet for Danilo? @Mark

Anyway, exaggeration aside, from people who've seen him regularly at City, how good or bad is he?

Good question.

I guess it'll be open when we announce the deal.

 

[Boksic]

With the new tax laws, the net effect on our books will be the same.

Are the tax laws permanent or for a limited period? I thought I had read that they only apply for the first 2 years. Even if you don't look at the Danilo deal, the quoted 9m for Lukaku was mental, plus the existing salaries we have e.g. Khedira.

Regardless of the cost to the club, the player will see no difference in their pocket each month, it's going to be difficult selling a guy like Danilo on 4m net in a couple of seasons.

 

[Mark]

Cancelo earns €5.25 gross. Danilo will earn €5.1 gross.

€1M net in England costs €1.8 gross.
€1M net in Italy costs €1.27 gross.

Manchester would be paying about €9.1M in income statement expenses to pay him €5M.. We would pay only €6.4M. And at €4M only €5.1M gross, less than Cancelo’s €5.25M.

Juventus is actively looking for swaps in order to reduce their payroll, which will give them capital gains and capacity for further signings. I don’t like this deal but if this leads to acquisitions of guys like Pogba, Eriksen or Neymar, I’m all for it.


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new law on taxes in effect already?

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

Why no thread yet for Danilo? @Mark

Anyway, exaggeration aside, from people who've seen him regularly at City, how good or bad is he?

https://www.transfermarkt.com.tr/danilo/profil/spieler/145707
according to this he played 800 minutes in PL last season. not even people who watch city regularly will be able to answer this question.

 

[italiacalcio10]

Are the tax laws permanent or for a limited period? I thought I had read that they only apply for the first 2 years. Even if you don't look at the Danilo deal, the quoted 9m for Lukaku was mental, plus the existing salaries we have e.g. Khedira.

Regardless of the cost to the club, the player will see no difference in their pocket each month, it's going to be difficult selling a guy like Danilo on 4m net in a couple of seasons.

I’ve read they begin on Jan 1 and last for 5 years with an option to extend for additional 5 years if the person has a kid or buys a house


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[italiacalcio10]

new law on taxes in effect already?

Jan 1


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[icemaη]

Are the tax laws permanent or for a limited period? I thought I had read that they only apply for the first 2 years. Even if you don't look at the Danilo deal, the quoted 9m for Lukaku was mental, plus the existing salaries we have e.g. Khedira.

Regardless of the cost to the club, the player will see no difference in their pocket each month, it's going to be difficult selling a guy like Danilo on 4m net in a couple of seasons.

5 years iirc

new law on taxes in effect already?

Jan 2020. All players signed after July 5th (I think) would benefit from the new tax law.

 

[s4tch]

Welcome Ruben Neves

now that would be some consolation at the shitty end of this mercato

unless pjanic get sold right after neves is announced

 

[CrimsonianKing]

A 28 year old Brazilian still being good, lol.

Seriously thought I always thought he was a bit of a playmaking fullback, not really any explosiveness to his game (not since he's been at City, anyway). Pretty strong and will put his foot in. Basically a current Alex Sandro on the right.

True, there are exceptions though like Alves.

I'm trying to stay positive but if he's at current Alex Sandro level then we aren't really improving over Cancelo.

 

[Paolino]

How many players do we have ? 29-30?
Shouldnt we sell 5-6 players cause we have 0 HG etc.?


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now we have 28 players https://www.transfermarkt.com/juventus-turin/startseite/verein/506/saison_id/2019
I think we can not have more than 23 players in our A ucl squad list.

 

[Mark]

now we have 28 players https://www.transfermarkt.com/juventus-turin/startseite/verein/506/saison_id/2019
I think we can not have more than 23 players in our A ucl squad list.

with only Pinsoglio I think it's 22.

 

[Mark]

I guess nobody asked for the Danilo thread?

 

[JuventusUruguay]

Done deal guys

 

[Fellas]

Next Rugani to PL . That one alone gives Paratici legendary status.